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Moshi
We used to be 1 -
a strong, entrenched flagpost on an Iwo Jima.
Self-contained, irreducable One,
indivisible, under the God of numbers.

Then something happened --
defying explanations and in clear violation
of eternal laws, --
one
became
two (a wh0re of a number).

And as two,
we were square-rooted into irrationality,
forced to seek even-numbered happiness
with any willing partner.

But memories of being One
still hang over our heads,
we are still just
1
-
2
of each other.


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I don't know if it works, just something I was thinking about this morning. It also dawned on me that it might be a sub-conscious rip-off of WW's very good 0s and 1s poem. I apologize.
Ahavati
QUOTE(Moshi @ Sep 8 2006, 12:11 PM) [snapback]644931[/snapback]

We used to be 1 -
a strong, entrenched flagpost on an Iwo Jima.
Self-contained,
irreducable 1, indivisible, under god-of-integers.

Then something happened --
defying explanations and in clear violation
of eternal laws, --
one
became
two (a wh0re of a number, clinging shamelessly to every breathing numeral).

And we were
square-rooted into irrationality,
forced to seek even-numbered happiness
with any willing partner.

But memories of being One still hang over our heads,
we are but
1/2
of each other.
-------------------------------------------------

I don't know if it works, just something I was thinking about this morning. It also dawned on me that it might be a sub-conscious rip-off of WW's very good 0s and 1s poem. I apologize.


Art is beautiful in how it moves through one person to the next; and thus triggers something in them that in turn produces even more beauty. It's the influence of the muse (which I dream of having once again) demonstrating the trickle-down effect not just through this period in time; but throughout time. I used to be a member of an elite writing group of young and brilliantly talented poets who will all be well-known one day. We would feed off each other and nothing was more beautiful than to see it bloom across the board like a meadow of flowers opening up to the sun. So I would worry less about the negativity of influence and focus on the beauty of the positive it produced.

I wish we had more of that here; inspiration from each other. This forum would bloom with such beauty.

You're good, Moshi.

Few things that niggled me initially, but would like to take a day or so mulling it, are the 'god-of-integers' (i personally (please don't take as such) would like just 'under god'). I'd also lose the, "clinging shamelessly to every breathing numeral)" because it kills the effect of "wh0re (great use of numerical THERE) of a number". That is a brilliant line because it desecrates the "one" to nothing = 0; which is the dagger you want to drive: the essence of the piece. And the numerical expression vs. spelling out the word 'one' etc. You have spelled out two and one in some lines, which doesn't lend to the consistency of the flow (to me). And of course, it's more than likely just me (being from an old school); but reading numericals (there are exceptions such as the use of 0 in wh0re) seems like reading a heart-felt poem as this with expressions such as, "r u real?" Or, "me 2". I wish I could explain it better. The ending is excellent in concept but uncertain in execution:

But memories of being One still hang over our heads,
we are but
1/2
of each other.

The first line disturbs me; sounds too cliche' for the climax of the ending. Let me mull this because it's well-worth the consideration.

But at any rate, Moshi, you're good.
Moshi
QUOTE(Ahavati @ Sep 8 2006, 04:55 PM) [snapback]645046[/snapback]

Art is beautiful in how it moves through one person to the next; and thus triggers something in them that in turn produces even more beauty. It's the influence of the muse (which I dream of having once again) demonstrating the trickle-down effect not just through this period in time; but throughout time. I used to be a member of an elite writing group of young and brilliantly talented poets who will all be well-known one day. We would feed off each other and nothing was more beautiful than to see it bloom across the board like a meadow of flowers opening up to the sun. So I would worry less about the negativity of influence and focus on the beauty of the positive it produced.

I wish we had more of that here; inspiration from each other. This forum would bloom with such beauty.

You're good, Moshi.

Few things that niggled me initially, but would like to take a day or so mulling it, are the 'god-of-integers' (i personally (please don't take as such) would like just 'under god'). I'd also lose the, "clinging shamelessly to every breathing numeral)" because it kills the effect of "wh0re (great use of numerical THERE) of a number". That is a brilliant line because it desecrates the "one" to nothing = 0; which is the dagger you want to drive: the essence of the piece. And the numerical expression vs. spelling out the word 'one' etc. You have spelled out two and one in some lines, which doesn't lend to the consistency of the flow (to me). And of course, it's more than likely just me (being from an old school); but reading numericals (there are exceptions such as the use of 0 in wh0re) seems like reading a heart-felt poem as this with expressions such as, "r u real?" Or, "me 2". I wish I could explain it better. The ending is excellent in concept but uncertain in execution:

But memories of being One still hang over our heads,
we are but
1/2
of each other.

The first line disturbs me; sounds too cliche' for the climax of the ending. Let me mull this because it's well-worth the consideration.

But at any rate, Moshi, you're good.


Thanks smile.gif Hanging over our heads sounds very cliche indeed, and I don't like it, except that 1/2 is "1 over 2" in a very literal sense, a visual I wanted to try to convey. Must use a different expression methinks. I also wasn't sure what to do as far as spelling numbers out or not. I wanted to use "1" because it looks like a flag. And 1/2 because of the other visual. Looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts later on how to make this work smile.gif
Ahavati
QUOTE(Moshi @ Sep 8 2006, 05:04 PM) [snapback]645054[/snapback]

Thanks smile.gif Hanging over our heads sounds very cliche indeed, and I don't like it, except that 1/2 is "1 over 2" in a very literal sense, a visual I wanted to try to convey. Must use a different expression methinks. I also wasn't sure what to do as far as spelling numbers out or not. I wanted to use "1" because it looks like a flag. And 1/2 because of the other visual. Looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts later on how to make this work smile.gif


Excellent point and well worth the effort to convey. IF you can direct the line in the middle vs. slashed it would, indeed, convey that (I believe). I'd like to see it. Take it bigger, too, like the 0 in wh0re. If you're going to spell the numbers out; then spell them out (screw the flag you're conveying division). The half, as I've said, might convey your message if you can divide centrally and increase a size or two. And, that would, indeed, play into some consistency with the 0, being it exceeds that surrounding it. But I would let THOSE be the only two numericals; all else spelled out. Well done.
Moshi
Thanks Ahavati. I made some changes. Something's still missing though, and I'm not sure what darnit.
Ahavati
QUOTE(Moshi @ Sep 8 2006, 05:19 PM) [snapback]645062[/snapback]

Thanks Ahavati. I made some changes. Something's still missing though, and I'm not sure what darnit.


No hurry. We'll mull it over Shabbos!
Ahavati
QUOTE(Moshi @ Sep 8 2006, 05:19 PM) [snapback]645062[/snapback]

Thanks Ahavati. I made some changes. Something's still missing though, and I'm not sure what darnit.


Do you want me to post the edit? Or, send privately?
Moshi
BUMPED for INT!!!! Int dude, did you get my math references? I set out to write a mathematical poem. If you don't come and comment on it, it will be for naught.

QUOTE(Ahavati @ Sep 12 2006, 07:24 PM) [snapback]647951[/snapback]

Do you want me to post the edit? Or, send privately?


You can post it, absolutely (sorry didnt see this until now)!! Thanks!
Ahavati
Meanwhile, three years later...

If I can FIND it now... unsure.gif
Moshi
QUOTE(Ahavati @ Sep 22 2006, 04:01 AM) [snapback]658412[/snapback]

Meanwhile, three years later...

If I can FIND it now... unsure.gif


Sorry smile.gif
Moshi
Ahavati!
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