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the Real Adiel
2007 stock picking competition. Manage a mock portfolio. Free to join, winner gets a free H.com sweatshirt. Anyone interested? Funds will be managed via marketocracy.com (free)

Step 1, go to marketocracy and open an account, you can name you fund anything you want, I'm naming mine Hash.

In the menu you will see an option "public" this gives you a link that allows the public to see your performance without actually seeing the stocks in the portfolio.

Here is an example Public Page.

You can open the fund anytime you like and start adding stocks before the competition starts so you get used to the system. The competition starts Jan 1 2007.

Your fund must be compliant.

QUOTE
In order to be eligible for Marketocracy rankings, you must follow diversification rules that are similar to those that real-world fund managers must face. We require that you meet these rules for a majority (51%) of a given quarter in order to be compliant — so we‘ve designed this report to help you keep track of your current compliance statistics, as well as your historical compliance and ranking eligibility.

There are a few simple rules to remaining compliant:

1. You cannot purchase a stock so that it will increase your position to over 25% of your portfolio‘s value. If you violate this rule, your fund's effective inception date will be reset to the date that you bring the find back into compliance with all compliance rules, not just the 25% rule
2. If a sub-25% position rises in value above the 25% threshold (without additional purchases), your fund will be out of compliance until you sell of enough to bring it below the threshold. (However, your inception date will not be reset.)
3. You may only hold up to 35% if your portfolio‘s value in cash. The other 65% (or more) must be invested in stocks. Real fund managers are paid to invest, not hold cash, and so the SEC requires that they meet this cash rule — hence we also require you to follow this rule a majority (51% or more) of the time.
4. Half of your long portfolio may be in positions that may not exceed 25% of the value your total portfolio value. That means that you can have two 25% positions taking up that entire half of the portfolio, or, you can have five 10% positions (since none exceed 25%).
5. The other half of your long portfolio may be in positions that may not exceed 10% of the value your total portfolio value. At the least, this means that you would need to hold 5 long positions worth 10% each. However, you can (and likely will) hold a few more positions to make sure you have some breathing room below the 10% threshold.
6. Negative cash balances may not exceed 5% of total portfolio value. If this happens for more than 7 days per quarter, you are out of compliance. That means that you may not spend more cash than you have to buy stock — or in other words, you may not use margin.


So far we have:


IR
shaya_getzl
Psychodad
FYI
TRA
Cynic
Aishel
Moshi
Adiel
Elana
accolade
FYI
I'm here , but every time I click NEXT, it just refreshes my page? What am I doing wrong here? (I know this is not money, but somehow I'm still messing up)
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(FYI @ Dec 15 2006, 12:51 PM) [snapback]737607[/snapback]

I'm here , but every time I click NEXT, it just refreshes my page? What am I doing wrong here? (I know this is not money, but somehow I'm still messing up)

Did you sign up?
FYI
QUOTE(the Real Adiel @ Dec 15 2006, 11:53 AM) [snapback]737613[/snapback]

Did you sign up?

I'm trying to. Did you click the link. I'm where I choose that I want the free trial and click NEXT. The issue is it won't let me click next.
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(FYI @ Dec 15 2006, 12:56 PM) [snapback]737621[/snapback]

I'm trying to. Did you click the link. I'm where I choose that I want the free trial and click NEXT. The issue is it won't let me click next.

scroll your screen all the way to the right.
cynic
We should start a club. Also I signed up, but I don't see the option for making the fund public.
investor relations
QUOTE(cynic @ Dec 15 2006, 12:59 PM) [snapback]737625[/snapback]

We should start a club. Also I signed up, but I don't see the option for making the fund public.

Same problem here.
FYI
QUOTE(the Real Adiel @ Dec 15 2006, 11:59 AM) [snapback]737623[/snapback]

scroll your screen all the way to the right.

AhH!!!! Isn't that a little "polish"?

(yeh! I know I'm stupid for not trying it but who scrolls for stuff like this and there was no error message appearing, it just kept refreshing)
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(cynic @ Dec 15 2006, 12:59 PM) [snapback]737625[/snapback]

We should start a club. Also I signed up, but I don't see the option for making the fund public.


At the top of your screen there should be a tab that says "my funds" scroll to your fund and a slide out will have "public" as one of the options.

my ticker is:
HASH

BTW, if anyone here does very well and makes the M100 they pay out $$ plus a cool key chain.
Psychodad
Do we have to have an official start date..so we all start on the same day?

ETA: nevermind Jan 1
FYI
QUOTE(Psychodad @ Dec 15 2006, 12:04 PM) [snapback]737634[/snapback]

Do we have to have an official start date..so we all start on the same day?

ETA: nevermind Jan 1

Can we make it Jan 2nd since some of us don't work on New Years?
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(FYI @ Dec 15 2006, 01:07 PM) [snapback]737637[/snapback]

Can we make it Jan 2nd since some of us don't work on New Years?

Doesn't matter the market's not open on Jan 1 and you can pick your stocks in advance.
aishel
I'm in.

I started a hashkafah.com club. PM me your usernames and stuff, so I can invite you.
FYI
QUOTE(aishel @ Dec 15 2006, 12:14 PM) [snapback]737640[/snapback]

I'm in.

I started a hashkafah.com club. PM me your usernames and stuff, so I can invite you.

Ok. Once I make sure I am signed in. I've signed up like 10 times with the same username (fyihash) but still tells me I have no login ??....Once I get all the stuff that should be easy out of the way, I'll let you know.
Moshi
Oooh I want to do this very much! I hope I remember after the weekend. Really good idea! thumbsup.gif
aishel
Let me know if you were able to join the club. TRA, since this is your thread, I'll give you "ownership" of the club.
investor relations
QUOTE(aishel @ Dec 15 2006, 01:23 PM) [snapback]737661[/snapback]

Let me know if you were able to join the club. TRA, since this is your thread, I'll give you "ownership" of the club.

I joined the club.
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(aishel @ Dec 15 2006, 01:23 PM) [snapback]737661[/snapback]

Let me know if you were able to join the club. TRA, since this is your thread, I'll give you "ownership" of the club.


That's OK, I'm not makpid on my kavod smile.gif

I joined the club.
FYI
QUOTE(the Real Adiel @ Dec 15 2006, 12:35 PM) [snapback]737676[/snapback]

That's OK, I'm not makpid on my kavod smile.gif

I joined the club.

I can't. bigcry.gif and I can normally do this regular stupid people tech-y stuff. I wonder if all the worrying about the finance game is causing me to lose my brains just signing up (is there any way you can tell if there's a user fyihash signed up?)
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(FYI @ Dec 15 2006, 01:37 PM) [snapback]737681[/snapback]

I can't. bigcry.gif and I can normally do this regular stupid people tech-y stuff. I wonder if all the worrying about the finance game is causing me to lose my brains just signing up (is there any way you can tell if there's a user fyihash signed up?)

3 hours to shabbos (and Chanukah), try again Sunday.
batya_d
Cool, so it's like Fantasy Wall Street league?

My friends and I are fans of www.fafarazzi.com-- Celebrity Fantasy leagues, where you get points every time a celeb on your league does something gossip-worthy or outrageous.
cholentpot
I can't comment as I only watch the JSE. sad.gif
FYI
OK. I can't start because my sign-up still isn't going through properly and it keeps telling me I'm successful without actually letting me sign on. However, mh said I wouldn't enjoy this game as I don't want to do day-trading. I want a place where I can put my $$ to grow and come get it in a few years. Does he know what he's talking about in this regard?
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(FYI @ Dec 18 2006, 02:19 PM) [snapback]739432[/snapback]

OK. I can't start because my sign-up still isn't going through properly and it keeps telling me I'm successful without actually letting me sign on. However, mh said I wouldn't enjoy this game as I don't want to do day-trading. I want a place where I can put my $$ to grow and come get it in a few years. Does he know what he's talking about in this regard?

No. This is not a day trading game. You can pick stocks today and never touch them again and win the contest.

If you PM me your user name and password I can try and help you, otherwise e-mail them.
FYI
QUOTE(the Real Adiel @ Dec 18 2006, 01:54 PM) [snapback]739490[/snapback]

No. This is not a day trading game. You can pick stocks today and never touch them again and win the contest.

If you PM me your user name and password I can try and help you, otherwise e-mail them.

My username is fyihash. Is thatenough? I can't give you my password because then you can post on H under my name.
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(FYI @ Dec 18 2006, 03:08 PM) [snapback]739522[/snapback]

My username is fyihash. Is thatenough? I can't give you my password because then you can post on H under my name.


You didn't have to tell me you use the same password rolleyes.gif

Why don't you start over with a new user name
FYI
QUOTE(the Real Adiel @ Dec 18 2006, 02:11 PM) [snapback]739525[/snapback]

You didn't have to tell me you use the same password rolleyes.gif

Why don't you start over with a new user name

everyone does. If anyone told me his/her password, I assume it's what s/he uses for a bunch of stuff, not just one thing. Otherwise you'll be like my father trying to find the sticky note with the right password for the right site. So I keep it limited to various categories. However, I will try again now.
adiel
count me in.
FYI
Ok. Now my name is fyi (I really wanted fyihash, gam zu l'tovah) I picked a different password with numbers, caps, lowercase, etc. and it seems much happier now.

Now, I need to make it public and then pick some funds, so give me a little time (I actually do also have other things I need to do today)

I sent in an application. If the owner of the club does not get my application shortly, please let me know.
THANKS!
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(FYI @ Dec 18 2006, 03:14 PM) [snapback]739531[/snapback]

everyone does. If anyone told me his/her password, I assume it's what s/he uses for a bunch of stuff, not just one thing. Otherwise you'll be like my father trying to find the sticky note with the right password for the right site. So I keep it limited to various categories. However, I will try again now.

My trick is to incorporate part of the site name into my generic password. This way all my passwords are different but it's easy for me to remember.
the Real Adiel
Please post a link to your fund.
aishel
FYI and Psychodad, you're in the club.

TRA, I'm not sure which public link you want. There are two. The first is a performance link, the second is my manager page.
http://www.marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObj...fIcOdCcMaKiAbDc
http://www.marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObj...ge/login=aishel
Psychodad
QUOTE(aishel @ Dec 19 2006, 10:11 AM) [snapback]740463[/snapback]

FYI and Psychodad, you're in the club.

I dont see mine in there.
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(aishel @ Dec 19 2006, 10:11 AM) [snapback]740463[/snapback]

FYI and Psychodad, you're in the club.

TRA, I'm not sure which public link you want. There are two. The first is a performance link, the second is my manager page.
http://www.marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObj...fIcOdCcMaKiAbDc
http://www.marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObj...ge/login=aishel


Performance link
aishel
QUOTE(Psychodad @ Dec 19 2006, 10:14 AM) [snapback]740466[/snapback]

I dont see mine in there.

I invited you. You have to accept. It might take a few minutes though.

Also, how soon do we have to be completely compliant? It's hard to invest 65% of your cash so fast!
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(aishel @ Dec 19 2006, 10:17 AM) [snapback]740476[/snapback]

I invited you. You have to accept. It might take a few minutes though.

Also, how soon do we have to be completely compliant? It's hard to invest 65% of your cash so fast!

You have until Jan 1.

Which H member has the fund named CF?
Psychodad
Not mine.
ETA: ok added my fund to the group
investor relations
http://www.marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObj...fIcObGeMaKiAbDc
Psychodad
wow I've already lost a few hundred dollars since this morning.
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(Psychodad @ Dec 19 2006, 10:25 AM) [snapback]740486[/snapback]

wow I've already lost a few hundred dollars since this morning.

They charge you a virtual commission for each trade, that's part of it. Plus they charge a simulated overhead fee of roughly 2% a year (but that is split over 12 months)
Psychodad
Do you generally pick stocks you also have irl? (question is for anyone)
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(Psychodad @ Dec 19 2006, 10:33 AM) [snapback]740505[/snapback]

Do you generally pick stocks you also have irl? (question is for anyone)

No, because I buy options where the underlying stocks on a great year only move 15%-20%.

Of course there is some overlap...
Psychodad
QUOTE(the Real Adiel @ Dec 19 2006, 10:34 AM) [snapback]740511[/snapback]

No, because I buy options where the underlying stocks on a great year only move 15%-20%.

Of course there is some overlap...

Can you buy options on this site?
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(Psychodad @ Dec 19 2006, 10:41 AM) [snapback]740525[/snapback]

Can you buy options on this site?

No, it's just stocks and you can't short. You can open a short only fund though.
FYI
QUOTE(Psychodad @ Dec 19 2006, 09:25 AM) [snapback]740486[/snapback]

wow I've already lost a few hundred dollars since this morning.

That was quick, but I thought you're not allowed to start yet?
the Real Adiel
QUOTE(FYI @ Dec 19 2006, 10:55 AM) [snapback]740551[/snapback]

That was quick, but I thought you're not allowed to start yet?

You can start your fund whenever you want but the contest starts Jan 1
FYI
QUOTE(the Real Adiel @ Dec 19 2006, 10:00 AM) [snapback]740558[/snapback]

You can start your fund whenever you want but the contest starts Jan 1

ahh..ok...
aishel
If you want to be in compliance, 65% of your cash needs to be invested, so its probably a good idea to start now.
FYI
QUOTE(aishel @ Dec 19 2006, 11:22 AM) [snapback]740671[/snapback]

If you want to be in compliance, 65% of your cash needs to be invested, so its probably a good idea to start now.

I will but first I need to find out something about stocks and what their letters are and what they stand for first, no?

eta: Did I mention I will probably lose because I'm clueless here.
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