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Elana
High speed DSL and just DSL are two different things?

Is there a major difference between 5MB/768Kbps DSL and 768Kbps/128Kbs (it's a speed thing, right?)

How does it work - do I need a special equipment for DSL? Do I have to pay for it? Do all companies charge for shipping (I guess, there IS some equipment I need, after all) and activitation? Is $20 a normal charge for it?

Thank you.
Tova
If you're speaking of Verizon- there is (regular) DSL and Fios (high speed).

The issue is speed- in most cases more speed is better, but it depends on your needs (and cost).

It should arrive with a modem or a combined modem router. If you want to be wireless that requires 802.11_ compliant cards or built-in and a wireless router...it's not necessary to buy the extra stuff from the company, shop around.
Elana
no, i'm not talking verizon (i don't want their phone service, and without it DSL would be madly expensive). it's not for wireless either. i just saw this price $14.94 for 768Kbps/128Kbs and it didn't look too expensive (now i'm paying $10 for a dial up, but without any tax add-ons). i'd love to have my phoneline free when i'm on the internet at home, if it won't cost much more than what i'm paying now.

what's the difference in those speeds? the second one can't be as slow as a dial-up, right?
Tova
QUOTE(Elana @ Dec 14 2007, 10:13 AM) *
no, i'm not talking verizon (i don't want their phone service, and without it DSL would be madly expensive). it's not for wireless either. i just saw this price $14.94 for 768Kbps/128Kbs and it didn't look too expensive (now i'm paying $10 for a dial up, but without any tax add-ons). i'd love to have my phoneline free when i'm on the internet at home, if it won't cost much more than what i'm paying now.

what's the difference in those speeds? the second one can't be as slow as a dial-up, right?

I've been using the 'less expensive' one for a few years-- it depends on your use. Not as slow as dial-up by any stretch of the imagination, but not as fast as other options.
Elana
thanks.
how much this not high speed DSL usually cost?

and it's a standard to pay for shipping and activation?
mendelbaum666
I have had verizon DSL since 2001, the difference is down load and upload speeds, if you are running applications that need a lot of bandwith (online gamming, file transfers) you need a high download speed if you are looking for something to get you online, chat rooms and such, stay with the regualr speed. you can still you is for streaming videos and such and is way faster than dial up.
the shipping is 'cause you will need a dsl "modem" router that plugs into your phone line and a dsl filter to plug into the other phone jacks so you do not get static when using the phone.
activation fees are charged by the company depending on the promotions that they are offering, but you can sometimes get them waived if you call a sales rep.
Elana
thanks. speed-wise, i'd definitely be ok with regular; don't need faster than that.
are shipping and activation fees separate beasts? this offer i saw said "$20 for shipping AND activation.
aishel
QUOTE(Elana @ Dec 14 2007, 09:40 AM) *
High speed DSL and just DSL are two different things?

Is there a major difference between 5MB/768Kbps DSL and 768Kbps/128Kbs (it's a speed thing, right?)
How does it work - do I need a special equipment for DSL? Do I have to pay for it? Do all companies charge for shipping (I guess, there IS some equipment I need, after all) and activitation? Is $20 a normal charge for it?

Thank you.

The difference is that the first numbers are more than five times faster than the second numbers.

BTW, if you're signing up for new service, you can often times negotiate to have the activation fees waived.
Elana
QUOTE(aishel @ Dec 16 2007, 12:56 AM) *
BTW, if you're signing up for new service, you can often times negotiate to have the activation fees waived.


QUOTE(Elana @ Dec 16 2007, 12:24 AM) *
are shipping and activation fees separate beasts? this offer i saw said "$20 for shipping AND activation.


?

btw, it's not verizon, or any other big company. it must be something small, you know, it's advertized in the torah times
aishel
QUOTE(Elana @ Dec 16 2007, 01:11 AM) *
?

btw, it's not verizon, or any other big company. it must be something small, you know, it's advertized in the torah times

Sometimes they're lumped together, sometimes not. Recently, I signed up for something that had $36 in activation fees, and another $10 in shipping fees. After expressing that the activation fee was a bit high, they had no problem waiving the fee.
TheDuncePolice
Cable is SO fun! Optimum Online had a great deal. I got the whole shebang, including the modem or whatever it is, for free and it costs me all of 30 whopping dollars a month.
mendelbaum666
I would stay away from anything like a phone service advertised in the Torah Times, stick with verizon, that way if you have any issues you go straight to Verizon and not thru some shmoe who has to call his tech who then calls verizon (yes this actually happens, was in the business for 4 years)
Elana
QUOTE(TheDuncePolice @ Dec 16 2007, 10:00 AM) *
Cable is SO fun! Optimum Online had a great deal. I got the whole shebang, including the modem or whatever it is, for free and it costs me all of 30 whopping dollars a month.


don't you have to have the whole package (phone, internet, tv) for $100? as of now, i don't have cable, and thought of getting it only becuase it looks it'll be cheaper than $30 (they advertise $15, but i didn't check how much taxes will come to).

QUOTE(mendelbaum666 @ Dec 16 2007, 04:16 PM) *
I would stay away from anything like a phone service advertised in the Torah Times, stick with verizon, that way if you have any issues you go straight to Verizon and not thru some shmoe who has to call his tech who then calls verizon (yes this actually happens, was in the business for 4 years)


i hear you, did have an (unpleasant) experience with it, actually, a few months ago, after being with the company for about 3 years. verizon is a rip-off, though. these companies are so much cheaper.

i definitely want to switch my phone company, and just saw this DSL ad there. will call the ads tomorrow and see how much it comes out with taxes and if it's worth it to me.
aishel
Nobody will ever tell you exactly how much you'll end up paying in taxes. For just local phone service (no long distance), my company was charging close to $20 in taxes and fees monthly.
Elana
QUOTE(aishel @ Dec 16 2007, 08:11 PM) *
Nobody will ever tell you exactly how much you'll end up paying in taxes. For just local phone service (no long distance), my company was charging close to $20 in taxes and fees monthly.


not really. verizon won't, but all those small companies from the torah times do tell you, and they didn't lie yet. th eone i'm using now told me i'll be paying about $11-12 in taxes, which i am. it's the cheapest in taxes i've seen so far, the local packages are all the same ($22). one company even wrote in their ad - about $38 after taxes. i wouldn't be changing it if they didn't charge me for dial up usage in excess of [don't remember how many minutes but apparently not enough for me]. this is very last century (just like my dial up), but it cost me another $10/month; it's ridiculous.
aishel
I got fed up with the taxes altogether. I just switched to VoIP, and will now be paying $25 for DSL service and $30/month for unlimited local and long distance calls for a total of $55/month. And I'm getting 4 months free.
Elana
QUOTE(aishel @ Dec 16 2007, 10:31 PM) *
I got fed up with the taxes altogether. I just switched to VoIP, and will now be paying $25 for DSL service and $30/month for unlimited local and long distance calls for a total of $55/month. And I'm getting 4 months free.


doesn't sound bad. what's VoIP - it's a company? can you give me their number?
Kalashnikover_Rebbe
QUOTE(Elana @ Dec 17 2007, 05:06 PM) *
doesn't sound bad. what's VoIP - it's a company? can you give me their number?

I'm sorry, but rofl.gif
Elana
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fine, you want me to spell it out? I AM TECHNOLOGY IGNORANT. happy now?
Kalashnikover_Rebbe
QUOTE(Elana @ Dec 17 2007, 09:36 PM) *
mad.gif
fine, you want me to spell it out? I AM TECHNOLOGY IGNORANT. happy now?

You already did in your previous post...
You asked the equivalent of the question "What's DSL- is it a company? Do you have their number?" Or in the words of Homer Simpson "They have the internet on computers now?!?!"

VOIP is in layman's terms "internet phone", your phone service goes through your internet connection and not the standard phone lines so you don't have to pay or deal with the phone company. It is usually cheaper, and you usually get unlimited calling to the US or even worldwide if you get a more expensive plan. There are many providers of this service.

The downside is the quality is not always superb, and if the internet or even power goes out you have no phone service either.
Elana
QUOTE(Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Dec 17 2007, 02:51 PM) *
VOIP is in layman's terms "internet phone", your phone service goes through your internet connection and not the standard phone lines so you don't have to pay or deal with the phone company. It is usually cheaper, and you usually get unlimited calling to the US or even worldwide if you get a more expensive plan. There are many providers of this service.


nu, and what was so hysterical that i didn't know this?
thanks for the enlightment.
Kalashnikover_Rebbe
QUOTE(Elana @ Dec 17 2007, 09:54 PM) *
nu, and what was so hysterical that i didn't know this?
thanks for the enlightment.

Because like half the civilized world has it (especially Jews and Israelis with family in the US), and there are ads for it ALL over the place...
And you USE the internet daily and know about and are seriously considering DSL or Cable so you are "in the parsha" so to speak.

It's like not knowing what Starbucks is (even if you're like me and would never go there b"n)... Or not knowing about the existence of Firefox...
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