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doodlehead
I found this poem and couldnt figure out what it was saying. Heres part of it

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suspect vision
conniving encryption
decades and pages
mere sand of the ages
draining, empty
gambling shifty
a stroll for the knowing
causing exhallation of frosting


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Ahavati
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complete context please.
doodlehead
QUOTE(Ahavati @ Dec 19 2007, 04:38 PM) *
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complete context please.

The part that I can quote without getting the censors mad is
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historic fiction
suspect vision
conniving encryption
decades and pages
mere sand of the ages
draining, empty
gambling shifty
a stroll for the knowing
causing exhalation of frosting
nullify knowing
the ascensions blowing

Can you make heads or tails of this first part?

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Ahavati
QUOTE(doodlehead @ Dec 19 2007, 04:50 PM) *
The part that I can quote without getting the censors mad is
[ quote ]
historic fiction
suspect vision
conniving encryption
decades and pages
mere sand of the ages
draining, empty
gambling shifty
a stroll for the knowing
causing exhallation of frosting
nullify knowing
the ascensions blowing
[ quote ]
Can you make heads or tails of this first part?

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Yes but I prefer the entire context to be certain. Can you PM it? I'd like to have a copy personally.
doodlehead
QUOTE(Ahavati @ Dec 19 2007, 04:56 PM) *
Yes but I prefer the entire context to be certain. Can you PM it? I'd like to have a copy personally.

Il send it to you, hold on.

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Ahavati
Got it. Thanks. Who authored it?
doodlehead
QUOTE(Ahavati @ Dec 19 2007, 05:29 PM) *
Got it. Thanks. Who authored it?

I'm not sure.


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Ahavati
QUOTE(doodlehead @ Dec 19 2007, 06:00 PM) *
I'm not sure.
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Where did you get it from?
doodlehead
QUOTE(Ahavati @ Dec 20 2007, 02:33 PM) *
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Where did you get it from?

Is was written inside a book I borrowed from someone. I havent called the person who owns the book yet, but I was curious what the poem was all about.

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Ahavati
QUOTE(doodlehead @ Dec 20 2007, 02:40 PM) *
Is was written inside a book I borrowed from someone. I havent called the person who owns the book yet, but I was curious what the poem was all about.

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Was it hand-written or a part of the book? And, what book?
doodlehead
QUOTE(Ahavati @ Dec 20 2007, 02:43 PM) *
Was it hand-written or a part of the book? And, what book?

Hand written.

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Ahavati
QUOTE(doodlehead @ Dec 20 2007, 02:47 PM) *
Hand written.

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What book? And, was it inscribed in the actual book or was it on a separate sheet of paper?
doodlehead
QUOTE(Ahavati @ Dec 20 2007, 02:55 PM) *
What book? And, was it inscribed in the actual book or was it on a separate sheet of paper?

Why do you care?

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Ahavati
QUOTE(doodlehead @ Dec 20 2007, 04:42 PM) *
Why do you care?

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Because it matters. Historical fiction is one my favorite types of literature. I'm trying to ascertain whether or not the poem was inspired by a particular book.
doodlehead
QUOTE(Ahavati @ Dec 21 2007, 09:18 AM) *
Because it matters. Historical fiction is one my favorite types of literature. I'm trying to ascertain whether or not the poem was inspired by a particular book.

It was not a book about history at all, it was a book about tea.


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Ahavati
It's a good poem which seems vaguely familiar somehow.
calvinandhobbes
QUOTE(doodlehead @ Dec 22 2007, 11:44 AM) *
It was not a book about history at all, it was a book about tea.
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Earl Grey or Breakfast?

(and Tova read the title as Historical Futtons...and we're both still laughing about 10 minutes later...)
doodlehead
QUOTE(Ahavati @ Dec 23 2007, 05:24 PM) *
It's a good poem which seems vaguely familiar somehow.

Maybe its a well known poem?
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QUOTE(calvinandhobbes @ Dec 23 2007, 05:49 PM) *
Earl Grey or Breakfast?
Neither. Its about the philosophy of tea.
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Ahavati
QUOTE(doodlehead @ Dec 24 2007, 07:45 AM) *
Maybe its a well known poem?


I'm not familiar with it. I was referring to style, I think.
Moshi
QUOTE(doodlehead @ Dec 24 2007, 07:45 AM) *
Its about the philosophy of tea.


huh?
doodlehead
QUOTE(Ahavati @ Dec 26 2007, 12:08 PM) *
I'm not familiar with it. I was referring to style, I think.

Which style?

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doodlehead
QUOTE(Moshi @ Dec 26 2007, 12:10 PM) *
huh?

The book of tea.

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Ahavati
QUOTE(doodlehead @ Dec 26 2007, 12:45 PM) *
Which style?

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free verse
doodlehead
QUOTE(Ahavati @ Dec 26 2007, 01:02 PM) *
free verse

What is it about?

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Ahavati
free verse adheres to no poetic traditions, espectations or rules. It's akin to a train-of-thought expressed in free form.

I cannot conclusively state what this particular poem is in reference to because I'm not familiar with who penned it. I can, however, say what the poem means to me personally. Free verse is like the abstract (and sometimes contemporary) form of art and subject to the interpretation of the viewer/reader. We don't see the world as it is but as we are. And what we see and what we say reveals more about ourselves than we could ever imagine.

My interpretation would be both a reference to the impact of historical fiction (a particular story unknown to us and yet repeated throughout history) on a reader and an analogy to human interaction. I would hate to disect it and taint any personal revelation it may have for another person. The beauty of historical fiction is the same as in relationships; the imagining and believing within confines of reality and realization.
doodlehead
QUOTE(Ahavati @ Dec 26 2007, 01:35 PM) *
free verse adheres to no poetic traditions, espectations or rules. It's akin to a train-of-thought expressed in free form.

I cannot conclusively state what this particular poem is in reference to because I'm not familiar with who penned it. I can, however, say what the poem means to me personally. Free verse is like the abstract (and sometimes contemporary) form of art and subject to the interpretation of the viewer/reader. We don't see the world as it is but as we are. And what we see and what we say reveals more about ourselves than we could ever imagine.

My interpretation would be both a reference to the impact of historical fiction (a particular story unknown to us and yet repeated throughout history) on a reader and an analogy to human interaction. I would hate to disect it and taint any personal revelation it may have for another person. The beauty of historical fiction is the same as in relationships; the imagining and believing within confines of reality and realization.

Thanks. Would you be able to pm a dissection?

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doodlehead
Based on melech's thread I am not that worried about p!ssing off the mods. Heres the whole poem. (thanks again ahavati for explaning the poem, I think its great)

historic fiction

suspect vision
conniving encryption
decades and pages
mere sand of the ages
draining, empty
gambling shifty
a stroll for the knowing
causing exhalation of frosting
nullify knowing
the ascensions blowing

offspring of sh!t
bound round the post
moons of discord
streak a naked ghost
cajole forever
they beat their breast
resist upon taking
aching hollow conquest


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