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How do people justify that? Let's assume daily showering these days is shaveh le-chol nefesh, still, that should only permit heating water on YT but not taking water from the tap and heating fresh water that you're not even using, and secondly, isn't there still an issur derabbanan to shower in a shower lest you come to bathe your entire body?
People shower on YT in hot water? This is the first I'm hearing of it...
Although I remember once I was in Atlanta and someone asked the Rov exactly this question and he answered the following
"There are 3 kinds of issurim:
1. Issur Mikker Hadin
2. Gezero D'Rabannan
3. Things "We just don't do"
and he classified this as #3...
Although I remember once I was in Atlanta and someone asked the Rov exactly this question and he answered the following
"There are 3 kinds of issurim:
1. Issur Mikker Hadin
2. Gezero D'Rabannan
3. Things "We just don't do"
and he classified this as #3...
There's a difference between a house and an apartment building...
QUOTE(Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Dec 30 2007, 06:15 PM) 
People shower on YT in hot water? This is the first I'm hearing of it...
Although I remember once I was in Atlanta and someone asked the Rov exactly this question and he answered the following
"There are 3 kinds of issurim:
1. Issur Mikker Hadin
2. Gezero D'Rabannan
3. Things "We just don't do"
and he classified this as #3...
Although I remember once I was in Atlanta and someone asked the Rov exactly this question and he answered the following
"There are 3 kinds of issurim:
1. Issur Mikker Hadin
2. Gezero D'Rabannan
3. Things "We just don't do"
and he classified this as #3...
That's what I don't get - I would think it's an issur de-rabbanan rather than things we just don't do since even if we were able to shower our entire bodies with hot water on YT on the grounds that today it's a shaveh le-chol nefesh, then there should still be a prohibition to use anything other than water heated on erev YT, rather than tap water likely heated on YT itself.
QUOTE(melech @ Dec 31 2007, 02:37 PM)
That's what I don't get - I would think it's an issur de-rabbanan rather than things we just don't do since even if we were able to shower our entire bodies with hot water on YT on the grounds that today it's a shaveh le-chol nefesh, then there should still be a prohibition to use anything other than water heated on erev YT, rather than tap water likely heated on YT itself.
What about with hot water heated in a dood shemesh?
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Dec 31 2007, 09:06 AM)
What about with hot water heated in a dood shemesh?
I'm not sure exactly how those work, but I'm not sure how that would be different. After all, what's the big difference between that sort of hot water tank and one heated by gas? At the end of the day, the water you are using right now was heated maybe yesterday, but if it's YT day, it was maybe heated this morning, and you use it for ochel nefesh, and new water comes in that you may or may not use later in the day.
QUOTE(melech @ Dec 31 2007, 04:08 PM)
I'm not sure exactly how those work, but I'm not sure how that would be different. After all, what's the big difference between that sort of hot water tank and one heated by gas? At the end of the day, the water you are using right now was heated maybe yesterday, but if it's YT day, it was maybe heated this morning, and you use it for ochel nefesh, and new water comes in that you may or may not use later in the day.
It is heated directly by the sun.
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Dec 31 2007, 09:10 AM)
It is heated directly by the sun.
OK. Does that make a difference? On YT, are you allowed to use water that you heated by the sun? Is the halachah any different than water you heated over a fire?
My rabbi always told me it was acceptable to shower on yom tov.
QUOTE(melech @ Dec 31 2007, 04:12 PM)
OK. Does that make a difference? On YT, are you allowed to use water that you heated by the sun? Is the halachah any different than water you heated over a fire?
You are even allowed to use water heated by the sun on Shabbos.
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Dec 31 2007, 09:16 AM)
You are even allowed to use water heated by the sun on Shabbos.
All water is heated by the sun.
QUOTE(Mike Smith @ Dec 31 2007, 04:19 PM)
All water is heated by the sun.
I mean directly from the sun.
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Dec 31 2007, 09:23 AM)
I mean directly from the sun.
As oposed to indirectly heated?
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Dec 31 2007, 09:16 AM)
You are even allowed to use water heated by the sun on Shabbos.
The I have no idea what the implications with respect to showering are.
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Dec 31 2007, 09:16 AM)
You are even allowed to use water heated by the sun on Shabbos.
Really? Cool. I didnt know that.
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