pleats
Jan 3 2008, 07:48 PM
Can't use barley for my chulent... what can I substitute?
krumlikeapretzel
Jan 3 2008, 07:51 PM
If you want something to give it sticky consistency you could use okra.
bigtoe
Jan 3 2008, 07:53 PM
Wheat berries.
(also possibly quinoa if you dumped it in at the end..but I don't think it's hardy enough unless kept on reeeeeally low heat)
Psychodad
Jan 3 2008, 07:55 PM
QUOTE(pleats @ Jan 3 2008, 07:48 PM)

Can't use barley for my chulent... what can I substitute?
small pasta
bigtoe
Jan 3 2008, 07:56 PM
QUOTE(Psychodad @ Jan 3 2008, 08:55 PM)

small pasta
Gets too mushy by morning.
Nooch
Jan 3 2008, 07:56 PM
Why not? Allergies?
pleats
Jan 3 2008, 07:57 PM
QUOTE(Psychodad @ Jan 3 2008, 07:55 PM)

small pasta
Orzo?
(Thanks krum and bigtoe, but I don't think the other eaters would greatly appreciate being fed okra or wheat berries... I might be able to get away with quinoa, but if it won't hold up...)
Kalashnikover_Rebbe
Jan 3 2008, 07:57 PM
Nothing, who says you need barley in Cholent??? (although I like it)
pleats
Jan 3 2008, 07:58 PM
QUOTE(Nooch @ Jan 3 2008, 07:56 PM)

Why not? Allergies?
Yoshon
bigtoe
Jan 3 2008, 07:59 PM
QUOTE(pleats @ Jan 3 2008, 08:57 PM)

(Thanks krum and bigtoe, but I don't think the other eaters would greatly appreciate being fed okra or wheat berries... I might be able to get away with quinoa, but if it won't hold up...)
um..wheat berries look just like barley. and no one knows the difference (been there ,done that..)
Psychodad
Jan 3 2008, 08:01 PM
QUOTE(pleats @ Jan 3 2008, 07:58 PM)

Yoshon


wow
orzo might work, never tried it.
Also I think whole wheat pasta doesnt get as mushy.
bigtoe
Jan 3 2008, 08:04 PM
QUOTE(Psychodad @ Jan 3 2008, 09:01 PM)

orzo might work, never tried it.
Don't try orzo or any pasta for that matter unless you want gooey, mushy, soggy cholent by morning. Really.I've tried it a few times because I'm such a carbivore..
Psychodad
Jan 3 2008, 08:09 PM
QUOTE(bigtoe @ Jan 3 2008, 08:04 PM)

Don't try orzo or any pasta for that matter unless you want gooey, mushy, soggy cholent by morning. Really.I've tried it a few times because I'm such a carbivore..
Have you ever had a cholent that wasn't soggy or mushy?
existwhere?
Jan 3 2008, 08:10 PM
My family often uses rice.
krumlikeapretzel
Jan 3 2008, 08:13 PM
Actually the best counter-intuitive/untraditional ingredient to add to chulent IMHO is poi, but unless you live in Hawaii or the on west coast your chances of finding good [or even edible] poi are zero.
TheDuncePolice
Jan 3 2008, 08:15 PM
QUOTE(krumlikeapretzel @ Jan 3 2008, 07:51 PM)

If you want something to give it sticky consistency you could use okra.
But that must give it a very different taste.
Navy beans (pea beans). It's not exactly like barley, but I use it every week
with barley as well. I don't use cholent beans (yucky taste) and use these two. It's light, not mushy at all and just delicious.
bigtoe
Jan 3 2008, 08:15 PM
QUOTE(Psychodad @ Jan 3 2008, 09:09 PM)

Have you ever had a cholent that wasn't soggy or mushy?

All the time; could be because I make it without meat.
To clarify, the pasta is barely edible because it gets so waterlogged by morning.
Nooch
Jan 3 2008, 08:16 PM
QUOTE(TheDuncePolice @ Jan 3 2008, 08:15 PM)

But that must give it a very different taste.
Navy beans (pea beans). It's not exactly like barley, but I use it every week with barley as well. I don't use cholent beans (yucky taste) and use these two. It's light, not mushy at all and just delicious.
Define cholent beans.
bigtoe
Jan 3 2008, 08:16 PM
QUOTE(krumlikeapretzel @ Jan 3 2008, 09:13 PM)

Actually the best counter-intuitive/untraditional ingredient to add to chulent IMHO is poi, but unless you live in Hawaii or the on west coast your chances of finding good [or even edible] poi are zero.
Most people I know actually like the chunks of meat & potatoes..
krumlikeapretzel
Jan 3 2008, 08:18 PM
QUOTE(bigtoe @ Jan 3 2008, 07:16 PM)

Most people I know actually like the chunks of meat & potatoes..
Psychodad
Jan 3 2008, 08:19 PM
QUOTE(bigtoe @ Jan 3 2008, 08:15 PM)

To clarify, the pasta is barely edible because it gets so waterlogged by morning.
you're probably right, im just brainstorming.
melech
Jan 3 2008, 09:12 PM
QUOTE(pleats @ Jan 3 2008, 07:48 PM)

Can't use barley for my chulent... what can I substitute?
my wife says: wheat kernels. although we use kamut kernels because we avoid regular wheat products.
TheDuncePolice
Jan 4 2008, 02:00 AM
QUOTE(bigtoe @ Jan 3 2008, 08:15 PM)

All the time; could be because I make it without meat.
To clarify, the pasta is barely edible because it gets so waterlogged by morning.
I sometimes put farfel in the cholent in a wrap n boil bag. I drop it in (raw) on top of everything, so it's mostly in the water, but not all the way. It usually is crispy and dry-ish by morning. Delicious.
QUOTE(Nooch @ Jan 3 2008, 08:16 PM)

Define cholent beans.
I think kidney beans. I think they have this weird mixture of every type of bean and it's called cholent beans.
agent220
Jan 4 2008, 09:59 AM
QUOTE(pleats @ Jan 3 2008, 07:58 PM)

Yoshon

Oy, just saw the heimishe brands have yoshon issues with barley this year
QUOTE(pleats @ Jan 3 2008, 06:58 PM)

Yoshon

QUOTE(existwhere? @ Jan 3 2008, 07:10 PM)

My family often uses rice.
I second rice. We have done this when we've run out of barley or any other reason we can't use barley (other than on pesach when it's chometz and rice is kitniyos) Use the same amount as usual.
Margaux
Jan 4 2008, 10:46 AM
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pleats
Jan 4 2008, 11:55 AM
So far it looks like it's going to be rice.
Alternatively, does anyone have the recipe for "potato kugel chulent" from KBD?
Elana
Jan 4 2008, 12:08 PM
QUOTE(TheDuncePolice @ Jan 3 2008, 08:15 PM)

I don't use cholent beans (yucky taste)
amen! and looks aweful, too - black-ish-weird brown-ish; very unappetizing.
QUOTE(Nooch @ Jan 3 2008, 08:16 PM)

Define cholent beans.
all different kinds in one baggy - that's how they are called in jewish supermarkets.
only small navy beans for cholent in my house
Tova
Jan 4 2008, 12:19 PM
What about kasha?
BroadwayFreak
Jan 4 2008, 12:28 PM
I'm trying rice this week.
Elana
Jan 4 2008, 12:58 PM
QUOTE(BroadwayFreak @ Jan 4 2008, 12:28 PM)

I'm trying rice this week.
i've made plov (bucharian rice and meat dish) a few times instead of cholent.
U Tarzan me Jane
Jan 4 2008, 01:10 PM
my mom used to use brown rice.
rachel b.
Jan 4 2008, 02:05 PM
we had cholent with rice last shabbes lunch. i would never have known it was rice if the hostess hadn't mentioned it, and it was delicious.
Shuli
Jan 4 2008, 04:31 PM
QUOTE(melech @ Jan 3 2008, 09:12 PM)

my wife says: wheat kernels. although we use kamut kernels because we avoid regular wheat products.

I used to stay by a family that made this in its own baggie in the chulent...it was DELICIOUS and easily my favorite part of the meal. Thanks for the reminder, melech...I'm gonna pick some up for next week.
Kalashnikover_Rebbe
Jan 5 2008, 11:28 AM
I'm surprised none of you pinko hippies suggested quinoa...
bigtoe
Jan 5 2008, 01:04 PM
QUOTE(Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Jan 5 2008, 12:28 PM)

I'm surprised none of you pinko hippies suggested quinoa...
Then you must have missed post # 3..
BroadwayFreak
Jan 5 2008, 06:44 PM
The rice dissolved.
pleats
Jan 5 2008, 07:05 PM
I put meat on the bottom of the crockpot, made potato kugel 'dough' and dumped it on top. 'Twas enjoyed, but didn't measure a thing. Oops.
existwhere?
Jan 5 2008, 07:05 PM
QUOTE(BroadwayFreak @ Jan 5 2008, 06:44 PM)

The rice dissolved.
Never happened to us... what were the other ingredients?
BroadwayFreak
Jan 5 2008, 07:13 PM
QUOTE(BroadwayFreak @ Jan 4 2008, 04:28 PM)

Tonight:
Massaman Chicken
Rice
Lunch:
Cholent (I used potatoes, canned diced tomatoes with the juice, chicken broth, stew meat, barley and rice, marsala wine, chick peas, and shredded carrots. ETA: it was delicious!!!!! But the rice totally dissolved.
I used Thai Jasmine rice. . . it seems to cook kind of quickly, so maybe that was the problem. Regardless, it turned out very well.
Red Hare
Jan 5 2008, 07:36 PM
by us rice would get sticky and gross.
TheDuncePolice
Jan 5 2008, 08:46 PM
QUOTE(BroadwayFreak @ Jan 5 2008, 06:44 PM)

The rice dissolved.
I found the best option for cholent is the brown rice. They are the least sticky and mushy.
existwhere?
Jan 5 2008, 10:10 PM
QUOTE(TheDuncePolice @ Jan 5 2008, 08:46 PM)

I found the best option for cholent is the brown rice. They are the least sticky and mushy.
We use only brown rice.
FYI
Jan 23 2008, 12:27 PM
QUOTE(BroadwayFreak @ Jan 5 2008, 05:44 PM)

The rice dissolved.
Was that a good or bad thing?
QUOTE(pleats @ Jan 5 2008, 06:05 PM)

I put meat on the bottom of the crockpot, made potato kugel 'dough' and dumped it on top. 'Twas enjoyed, but didn't measure a thing. Oops.
So you skipped the rice/barley issue altogether? Also, when you put meat on the bottom, doesn't it dry out too much? I find that unless meat is all the way on top (I'm talking cubed stew/chulent meat) it gets too dry/hard.
pleats
Jan 23 2008, 12:32 PM
QUOTE(FYI @ Jan 23 2008, 12:27 PM)

So you skipped the rice/barley issue altogether? Also, when you put meat on the bottom, doesn't it dry out too much? I find that unless meat is all the way on top (I'm talking cubed stew/chulent meat) it gets too dry/hard.
Yup, but now we have enough to last until Pesach. Yay!
It didn't dry out at all... I used a strip of flanken and cut it into chunks.
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