Pinchas
Jan 16 2008, 04:47 PM
From an email (I personally know the couple -please daven):
QUOTE
A baby boy was born in Yerushalayim yesterday to a couple who has been waiting many years to have children. Unfortunately many things are going wrong. Please daven for tinok ben aviva, this baby has to make it, we need your tfilos!! Please pass this along.
krumlikeapretzel
Jan 16 2008, 04:49 PM
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 16 2008, 03:47 PM)

From an email (I personally know the couple -please daven):
May the baby have a refuah shleimah.
Elana
Jan 16 2008, 04:50 PM
may Hashem send him refuah sheleima
Gabbe
Jan 16 2008, 05:08 PM
His name is Tinok?!
Pinchas
Jan 16 2008, 05:12 PM
QUOTE(Gabbe @ Jan 17 2008, 12:08 AM)

His name is Tinok?!
He has not been named yet. He was born yesterday. This standard usage is Tinok for these unfortunate situations. If they name him I will let you know.
Gabbe
Jan 16 2008, 05:13 PM
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 16 2008, 05:12 PM)

He has not been named yet. He was born yesterday. This standard usage is Tinok for these unfortunate situations. If they name him I will let you know.
The standard usage to be to give him a name. (You can break this into another thread; I don't want you to think I'm hijacking ch"v)
Pinchas
Jan 16 2008, 05:19 PM
QUOTE(Gabbe @ Jan 17 2008, 12:13 AM)

The standard usage to be to give him a name. (You can break this into another thread; I don't want you to think I'm hijacking ch"v)
CH"V
mosheshmeal
Jan 16 2008, 05:22 PM
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 16 2008, 05:47 PM)

From an email (I personally know the couple -please daven):
Done.
mosheshmeal
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Gabbe
Jan 16 2008, 05:22 PM
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 16 2008, 05:19 PM)

So what? I didn't argue that the standard practice was so; I was arguing on the standard practice. (I will never forget the case of Tinok Aleph ben Shprintze and Tinok Bais ben Shprintze.)
Menachem E
Jan 16 2008, 09:52 PM
There is a very holy yid in Jerusalem who just had a baby yesterday - its his and his wifes first child in 11 and a half years - the baby is sick and they havent named it yet cuz i got an e-mail tha i shud say tehillim for Tinok ben aviva - and if u knew these ppl and the yid who is so frikin holy(and hes not breslov)then you wud say tehillim to
Tinok Ben Aviva -
Please Daven
bigtoe
Jan 17 2008, 03:47 PM
I know the family too.
..read on another listserv that all of the baby's organs have failed and he is currently on a respirator..
Pinchas
Jan 18 2008, 08:04 AM
QUOTE(bigtoe @ Jan 17 2008, 10:47 PM)

I know the family too.
..read on another listserv that all of the baby's organs have failed and he is currently on a respirator..
Not everything being circulated on listservs and email is true. Baby's organs have NOT failed. Never the less keep saying tehillim please.
bigtoe
Jan 18 2008, 09:25 AM
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 18 2008, 09:04 AM)

Not everything being circulated on listservs and email is true. Baby's organs have NOT failed. Never the less keep saying tehillim please.
Of course it's not all 'true', but if you don't post what's going on, no one will know. This is what I saw. at least now they've identified the problem.
Pinchas
Jan 19 2008, 06:55 PM
B"H the tehillim are working. Keep saying them.
TheDuncePolice
Jan 21 2008, 10:58 PM
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 18 2008, 08:04 AM)

Not everything being circulated on listservs and email is true. Baby's organs have NOT failed. Never the less keep saying tehillim please.
Can you please share whatever info you know? There are so many people out there that are davening for this baby and worrying.
Watch this clip of baby's mother speaking
Rebetzin Feiner.
May he have a Refuah Shlaima.
5748
Jan 22 2008, 02:45 AM
QUOTE(TheDuncePolice @ Jan 21 2008, 09:58 PM)

Watch this clip of baby's mother speaking
Rebetzin Feiner.
Thanks for that clip.
She's really an amazing woman, I found this speech very inspirational!
Pinchas
Jan 22 2008, 04:35 AM
QUOTE(TheDuncePolice @ Jan 22 2008, 05:58 AM)

Can you please share whatever info you know? There are so many people out there that are davening for this baby and worrying.
Watch this clip of baby's mother speaking
Rebetzin Feiner.
May he have a Refuah Shlaima.
If the mother of the baby herself did not go into medical detail in public what right do I have to?
You heard what she said - the odds of this condition are so rare it has never happened before and I'll add that B"H the doctors (somehow thanks the chasdi Hashem) were able to identify it quickly and they are treating it. I understand it is fully treatable but it's still serious and needs everyone's tefillot.
Thank you for the clip... are you sure she is okay with having it publicly posted?
TheDuncePolice
Jan 22 2008, 06:30 AM
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 22 2008, 04:35 AM)

If the mother of the baby herself did not go into medical detail in public what right do I have to?
You heard what she said - the odds of this condition are so rare it has never happened before and I'll add that B"H the doctors (somehow thanks the chasdi Hashem) were able to identify it quickly and they are treating it. I understand it is fully treatable but it's still serious and needs everyone's tefillot.
Thank you for the clip... are you sure she is okay with having it publicly posted?
CH"V. I wasn't asking for you to tell me specific details. Just that bolded line is enough. I was wondering if it's something that's treatable and if there's hope. I'm happy to hear the above. May he continue to get better and better. Thanks for sharing that bit of info.
Yes, it's OK to have it posted. I forgot to paste the following:
The following link was authorized for wider distribution by the Torah Conferencing Network. You are encouraged to forward the link as widely and as quickly as possible to encourage Klal Yisroel to daven for the baby, Tinok ben Aviva, born to this incredible couple.
The link is to download (right click, Save as) or stream (just click) a video of Hisorirus given by the mother, Aviva Feiner today at Neve Yerushalaim. The Feiners gave birth six days ago to a son after many years, who is in dire need of our tefillos. May the zchus of this Torah learning bring refuah and yeshua to Tinok ben Aviva.
Pinchas
Jan 22 2008, 06:38 AM
They better upload the video to YouTube or something. It will spread like fire and it's 50mb... they will hit there max download capacity very quickly!
Pinchas
Jan 22 2008, 08:48 AM
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 22 2008, 01:38 PM)

They better upload the video to YouTube or something. It will spread like fire and it's 50mb... they will hit there max download capacity very quickly!
I agree!
Part 1 of 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHD6HRw7iw8Part 2 of 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyIiKCRm4TQ
agent220
Jan 22 2008, 10:58 AM
Wow.
notreallyhere
Jan 23 2008, 12:10 AM
Thank you, TDP, for sharing. And thanks to Pinchas for sharing the youtube links.
She's unbelievable. Her perspective is mind-blowing. I second what Agent220 said: Wow. May "klal yisroel's baby" have a refuah shleimah b'meheira.
Question: In an email I got about this, it said to daven for "Tinok ben Aviva bas Chana." Why her mother's name? She's okay.
mosheshmeal
Jan 23 2008, 12:48 AM
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 22 2008, 07:38 AM)

They better upload the video to YouTube or something. It will spread like fire and it's 50mb... they will hit there max download capacity very quickly!
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 22 2008, 09:48 AM)

I agree!
Wow! Such achdus!
mosheshmeal
.
Menachem E
Jan 23 2008, 01:47 AM
i built the finer's succah last year - they are the holiest couple ever
Pinchas
Jan 23 2008, 04:34 AM
QUOTE(Menachem E @ Jan 23 2008, 08:47 AM)

i built the finer's succah last year - they are the holiest couple ever
I was in that Succah.
notreallyhere, some people use the grandmothers name as well I think since there could be more than one Tinok ben Aviva.
doodlehead
Jan 23 2008, 04:39 AM
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 23 2008, 04:34 AM)

notreallyhere, some people use the grandmothers name as well I think since there could be more than one Tinok ben Aviva.
They should all have a refuah.
9
Pinchas
Jan 23 2008, 04:41 AM
QUOTE(doodlehead @ Jan 23 2008, 11:39 AM)

They should all have a refuah.
9Amen...but a key component of teffilah is to be as specific as possible.
calvinandhobbes
Jan 23 2008, 04:52 AM
Also, she did just give birth...her body needs time to get back to normal.
notreallyhere
Jan 23 2008, 11:29 AM
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 23 2008, 04:34 AM)

notreallyhere, some people use the grandmothers name as well I think since there could be more than one Tinok ben Aviva.
But there can be more than one of any name! I hear the logic but it's still peculiar to me.
I just got that clip emailed to me and it said "for women only." Does anyone know anything about that?
Pinchas
Jan 23 2008, 11:43 AM
QUOTE(notreallyhere @ Jan 23 2008, 06:29 PM)

But there can be more than one of any name! I hear the logic but it's still peculiar to me.
I just got that clip emailed to me and it said "for women only." Does anyone know anything about that?
Yeah - I do now!
I got into trouble for posting it on YouTube!
Thanks TDP!
TheDuncePolice
Jan 23 2008, 08:27 PM
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 23 2008, 11:43 AM)

Yeah - I do now!
I got into trouble for posting it on YouTube!
Thanks TDP!
I'm sorry. I had no clue.
Pinchas
Jan 24 2008, 03:51 PM
QUOTE(TheDuncePolice @ Jan 24 2008, 03:27 AM)

I'm sorry. I had no clue.
It's okay.
Apparently that text which said it "was authorized for wider distribution by the Torah Conferencing Network" was not authorized by the TCN at all! The link was never meant to be made public. It was only to transmit the clip to other "women Tehillim gatherings" around the world.
Anyway...
notreallyhere
Jan 24 2008, 03:56 PM
QUOTE(Pinchas @ Jan 24 2008, 03:51 PM)

Anyway...
Any updates on the baby's condition?
Pinchas
Jan 24 2008, 05:37 PM
QUOTE(notreallyhere @ Jan 24 2008, 10:56 PM)

Any updates on the baby's condition?
B"H he is slowly improving. Keep davening.
mosheshmeal
Jan 24 2008, 05:43 PM
Done again.
mosheshmeal
.
bigtoe
Jan 24 2008, 09:18 PM
TheDuncePolice
Jan 27 2008, 02:40 AM
Any updates on the little one?
bigtoe
Jan 28 2008, 01:21 PM
Anyone have a working link for Aviva Feiner's tu bishvat speech? Someone I know (female) is looking for it and all the ones online (and H) are non-working..anyone perchance download it last week?
notreallyhere
Jan 28 2008, 01:24 PM
QUOTE(bigtoe @ Jan 28 2008, 01:21 PM)

Anyone have a working link for Aviva Feiner's tu bishvat speech? Someone I know (female) is looking for it and all the ones online (and H) are non-working..anyone perchance download it last week?
Sorry

I just checked the link in the email I got, and it's not working. If you get it, can you PM me? I would love to have it on file.
Pinchas
Jan 28 2008, 03:09 PM
If you read the thread you'll see the Feiners asked that it NOT be uploaded.
However, women do have permission to hear it. So if you are a female please PM your email address and I will send you the details.
Pinchas
Feb 3 2008, 01:42 PM
UPDATE: Men now have permission to hear it as well and can hear it by
clicking here.
Pinchas
Feb 6 2008, 10:20 AM
I just received the following:
A BRIEF UPDATE… BS"D
Shalom U'vracha to all the chashuv mispallelim on behalf of Tinok ben Aviva:
As the father of Klal Yisroel's adorable little tzaddikel- and on behalf of our family- I would like to humbly ask that you please intensify your already potent and precious tefillos. We just returned from the hospital and an important meeting discussing numerous test results. Without going into much detail, we are dealing with a situation that, just to reiterate, the medical world and literature has never before seen. There have been some very positive signs, but some, unfortunately, not-so-great ones as well. (His breathing has, B"H, gotten much better- he is now breathing fully on his own- but certain significant reflexes are not yet working properly. And this is only part of the story.)
What the future holds in store? These renowned doctors are all in agreement that they haven't the slightest clue. In their words, there is nothing more they can really do but sit and wait and see. As time goes on, tzaddikel can, IY"H, experience a full recovery both mentally and physically, or chalila not. They too readily admit that tzaddikel's future is completely dependent on our koach ha'tefilla arousing rachamei Shamayim.
Please don't let up. Please do your utmost to daven sincerely and powerfully on behalf of Tinok ben Aviva bas Chana- TOGETHER WITH SHA'AR CHOLEI YISROEL- and may we only share besoros tovos always.
Yeshuos vi'nechamos for all of Klal Yisroel bi'karov.
Thanking all of you, mei'omek ha'lev, for all of your incredible and inspiring efforts thus far and hoping for the ongoing tefillos and zechuyos to bring a speedy refuah shi'leima,
EF
Pinchas
Feb 18 2008, 05:15 AM
BS"D
YET ANOTHER BRIEF UPDATE…
(early morning in Eretz Yisroel, 12 Adar I, Feb. 18)
First and foremost, my wife and I feel an overwhelming sense of hakaras ha'tov to each and every one of you who continue to daven so intensely and continue to be marbeh zechuyos for the refuah shi'leima of Klal Yisroel's adorable little tzaddikel. A tremendous Yasher Koach is extended to you all- mei'omek ha'lev. Thank you so very much.
To quickly update all the chashuv mispallelim, tzaddikel is now continuing to breathe on his own, and his breathing is B"H slowly, but gradually, improving. He can be held (and bathed- he really loves baths…) outside the incubator for a nice duration of time without decreases in his saturation level. He has also been steadily gaining weight and is now at approximately 6.5 pounds.
We have recently had some very positive news: He has started to cough periodically, thus demonstrating a gag reflex not previously seen. Even more importantly, we have- as he just passed his 'first month' birthday- heard him cry, ever so slightly, for the first time. Can you imagine—almost five weeks old now, and we are davening to hear him cry…and B"H he has begun to emit short bursts of crying…his vocal chords are working… Chasdei Hashem.
Certain essential reflexes and other important areas are still in need of rachamei Shamayim, so please maintain your incredible dedication and outpouring of precious tefillos. They are all so very much appreciated, and have truly accomplished a great deal thus far.
May we only share in constant and overflowing besoros tovos for all of Klal Yisroel.
Wishing you all only Kol Tuv always and thanking you once again for everything,
EF
Belle
Feb 18 2008, 08:58 PM
Oh, THANKS for updating. I'm so sad for this baby's situation.

May he have a complete refuah sheleimah.
Elana
Feb 18 2008, 09:34 PM
thanks for the update! may he have a complete refuah!
joshman
Feb 25 2008, 10:26 AM
any updates?
Pinchas
Feb 25 2008, 12:12 PM
Status Quo.
As soon as anything changes Bez"H for the better I will post an update.
Pinchas
Mar 15 2008, 06:20 PM
As promised, just got this:
LATEST UPDATE… (#3)
Erev Shabbos Kodesh, Parshas Vayikra/Zachor
March 14, '08
Shalom U'vracha to all the chashuv mispallelim on behalf of Tzaddikel:
Hoping this letter finds you all well. Once again, our hakaras ha'tov to all of you is limitless, as we hear continuously of all the heartfelt tefillos and remarkable zechuyos that are taking place in the zechus of Tinok ben Aviva's refuah shi'leima. A tremendous yasher koach for your wonderful efforts, and may HaKB"H send you only simcha, bracha, and hatzlacha in all inyanim.
Without further delay, allow me to just tell you that, B"H, your tefillos are doing incredible things. Mamash incredible things. Chasdei Hashem Yisbarach... We should never underestimate the power of sincere tefilla and the power of Klal Yisroel joining together…
Tzaddikel's health is gradually improving and recent tests showed great results. I simply can't go into the medical details here, but I do hope to share some of the nissim and nifla'os that we have been witnessing at a later date—perhaps at his bris, IY"H, which we hope will take place sometime in the near future. (I guess you'll all just have to attend somehow…) The three main doctors involved in our case, are, well, just to borrow their own terminology, "completely bewildered." They are now 'officially' calling tzaddikel's case a "medical mystery"—let me just add that tzaddikel is no longer taking any medication for a metabolic condition…bliay"h—and they have nothing really to say except that they realize fully that G-d is 100% running the show… To quote the neurologist involved, "I don't know what they're doing, but tell all your friends to keep doing whatever they're doing, because it's working…and I'm completely astounded by what I'm now seeing…" A therapist who works with him has told us that she would not be surprised if he became religious because of Tinok ben Aviva…
And yet there are still essential functions that must be exhibited before we can even think about bringing tzaddikel home. He needs to learn, for example, to suck (and gag) and swallow… His lack of swallow also causes issues with his breathing (and de-saturations), and we must therefore humbly ask of you to continue all your special tefillos just as strong as before. An excellent therapist is involved who will also try to work on improving his overall muscle tone, and with rachamei Shamayim hopefully continuing, we will bi'ezras Hashem see only good results.
Klal Yisroel is truly unbelievable. We can indeed accomplish great things together, so let's keep doing our utmost to help bring a refuah shi'leima to Tinok ben Aviva and to ALL OF CHOLEI YISROEL bi'karov. Let's push ourselves to keep maximizing our enormous spiritual potential- especially as Purim and the z'man ha'geula approaches- and let's help bring endless yeshuos and nechamos to all of the Jewish People. May HaKB"H shower us all with continued rachamim and may we be zocheh to share only besoros tovos always.
Best wishes for a meaningful, relaxing, and enjoyable Shabbos Kodesh up ahead.
With immense gratitude to you all,
Eytan Feiner
U Tarzan me Jane
Mar 15 2008, 09:37 PM
thanks!
Elana
Mar 15 2008, 10:24 PM
Baruch Hashem! so glad to hear this! thanks for posting.
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