1. The Tur explains why we fast on 17 be-tammuz and not on 9 be-tammuz as we would expect from the scriprture - because 17 be'av was the relevant date for the second BHM.
But why doesn't the Tur deal with difficulties of the specific dates 3 Tishrei and 9 be'av and 13 adar also not being scripturally adduced?
2. The Tur had a few verses to choose from to demonstrate that 10 be-teivet is a bad day: Melachim Beit 25:1, Yirmiyahu 52:4, and Yechezkel 24:1.
Why did the Tur opt for the verse from Yechezkel and neither of the other two similar verses?
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QUOTE (melech @ Feb 3 2008, 06:49 PM) 
1. The Tur explains why we fast on 17 be-tammuz and not on 9 be-tammuz as we would expect from the scriprture - because 17 be'av was the relevant date for the second BHM.
But why doesn't the Tur deal with difficulties of the specific dates 3 Tishrei and 9 be'av and 13 adar also not being scripturally adduced?
2. The Tur had a few verses to choose from to demonstrate that 10 be-teivet is a bad day: Melachim Beit 25:1, Yirmiyahu 52:4, and Yechezkel 24:1.
Why did the Tur opt for the verse from Yechezkel and neither of the other two similar verses?
But why doesn't the Tur deal with difficulties of the specific dates 3 Tishrei and 9 be'av and 13 adar also not being scripturally adduced?
2. The Tur had a few verses to choose from to demonstrate that 10 be-teivet is a bad day: Melachim Beit 25:1, Yirmiyahu 52:4, and Yechezkel 24:1.
Why did the Tur opt for the verse from Yechezkel and neither of the other two similar verses?
1. What does 17 be'av have to do with anything?
2. because that's when it tells us to write it down?
QUOTE (existwhere? @ Feb 3 2008, 07:46 PM)
1. What does 17 be'av have to do with anything?
yes, I'm lost?
QUOTE (existwhere? @ Feb 4 2008, 07:20 PM)
yes, I'm lost?
oh, sorry, my mistake. I meant 17 be-tammuz.
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