Has participation on h.com made you look at the camp within the spectrum of Orthodoxy with which you affiliate differently?

Has participation on h.com made you look at your spouse in a different light?

Since I don't really affiliate with any camp within Orthodoxy, and I don't have a cohabitating partner (yet) it doesn't really apply...
That said, the opportunity to vent old pent-up frustrations about a whole gamut of different camps within Orthodoxy has helped me view them in a more favorable light...

Participation on h.com made me better understand the differences in approaches among the left wing and the right wing, and certainly helped me realize which approaches are closest to my feeling about things, and directed me towards great books, and encouraged me in learning. It helped me realize that the right wing approach does not necessarily represent the Jewish ideal -- although some aspects of it do.

Another question: If your posts convince someone to change their opinion or outlook on something, do you feel good, or do you think they're a sucker and spineless for being convinced so easily?

Have you grown a middle wing by now ?

It's made me appreciate it even greater.
Yes, helped me appreciate it even greater than previously.



If you ask me, that sounds like a good thing.

I have changed my opinions about things because of h.com threads. I hope that doesn't mean people think therefore I'm a sucker and spineless.

Eh, I've always had a middle wing, the shul I've been going to the last 8 years (since college) is as middle wing as they come, to the point where I've never once become aware of most of the crazy controversies that one hears of on h.com. It's nice to live in a little quiet neighbourhood far far away.

FWIW, I don't.

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Yup. Same here.

It's also made me ask questions in real life that I might not otherwise have asked (of rabbis, mentors, Hubby, parents). For that, I'm actually quite grateful.

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It's also made me ask questions in real life that I might not otherwise have asked (...Hubby,.
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don't forget to ask him about Nedarim 20a

I actually am starting to rethink asking him. I really don't need him to think that h.com is a corrupting influence in my/our life.

Tell him you read it on calmkallahs.

I obviously feel good if I can convince others about certain issues... I change my opinions all the time when new information refutes my previous assumptions. Hanging on to your opinions in the face of overwhelming proof to the contrary is not a sign of backbone, but of stupidity and deep-seated programming...

I think it takes more backbone to change and admit you may not have been doing it properly before, than to keep along the same old route

I love that there's a kollel in my shul.

amen

Yes.

I agree with both of you, but I was just wondering what it looks like to someone from my "camp" when they see me agreeing with something from another "camp."

Just make sure you're not so open minded your brains spill out.

Either I misunderstood him, or you did.

H.com has exposed me to different viewpoints , which is definitely a good thing. Living in a small yehsivish community, the outlook among the people I encounter is pretty limited. It's nice to know that you don't have to drink the Kool-Aid.

I would say it makes you look like a genuine mevakesh emes.

Depends which of the two you're referring to.

Too late, IMHO this forum has already done her irreparable damage, and it is only the tip of the iceberg...

The second one.


Thank you for giving me a laugh.

I wasn't at ALL kidding...

In that case I was quoting the aphorism as a parody in a sarcastic way.

I know you weren't. I still thought it was funny. Don't worry, I'm in no danger of becoming MO anytime soon.


That's what I thought. FYI apparently sees that aphorism in a positive light.

No, but you're well on your way to becoming krum (not as a pretzel)....

So now,not being a full fledged,dyed in the wool,card carrying member of the Yeshivishe velt,makes you krum?

Nope, I just think this place is having a VERY bad hashpoh on her. Feel free to disagree but that is my opinion....

You think that a Yehsivish person who realizes that its not all that its cracked up to be has been tainted?


How about just looking for the emes and go to where it leads you?

With the help of some people with pretty strong agendas, YES...
It is like taking a sheltered chassidic kid and davka shattering his whole world under the guise of "exposing him to the truth". Why go out of your way to take away someone's temmimus and make them cynical and resentful???


What if it leads you to places best not traveled to?? And by what standards does one measure and recognize "emes". Because some people on the internet say it, that means it is so???