Discuss, if you understand what I'm trying to say.

Any hints?

the rashi on "chamushim," perhaps?

Yep.

(Though the parallel is more conceptual than precisely the same.)

Not really, because many Tzadikim died in the Holocaust alongside the Roshayim.

But there is certainly a concept of "ud mutzal mha'aish" or a rebirth davka after or even as a result of a churban.... It is a recurring theme in Navi, that there will be a great churban, but G-d won't completely destroy us and will redeem the survivors....

I guess I won't post anything about that shuir I heard on how many of those who died in Makas Chosheh only died because they didn't want to make Aliyah. Actually if I recall correctly Rashi says that explicitly.

Furthermore it is a known concept that when a klal sins the Tzadikim are punished along with the Roshayim.

So everyone in the Holocaust died because they didn't want to make Aliyah??? Why did only Europe get hit?

And it is true that Tzadikim are often "taken along for the ride" and suffer for the sins of the generation, that was NOT the case by makas choshech....

You know, I was wondering why all the pics of the holocaust looked dark.

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Well if you read EHS...

Actually, if I recall correctly Rashi never was in EY.


Pinchas,

I understand that using the Holocuast as a "lesson" in favor of your ideology is pretty much irresistible, but it's actually counterproductive, despite whatever you've heard. It's actually offensive for many people.

Neither was Moses.



And some people find using the Shoah as a "lesson" in favor of your anti-Eretz Yisrael ideology offensive.

Nevertheless the Rebbe from Gur ZT"L and the Rebbe from Satmar ZT"L both held as they did and they were both very holy people.