Based on any particular shitta any circumstance in shas, can you think of a scenario in which 1) Someone can marry his daughter. (not ger, his actual halachik daughter) 2) Two men can marry the same woman?

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Anybody? (Krum?)

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You actually made me try to find out. I've been aching from the curiosity. Pray tell already!

How did you try?

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If I tell you I have to kill you. Sorry.

1) Sure, virtually any man (not davka a Rabbi per se) can officiate at the chuppah of his daughter and thus marry his daughter to another man.
2) Sure, any two men can marry the same woman, just not at the same time.

1) True, but I meant marry her himself and be husband and wife with his daughter.
2)At the same time, no divorce, no issur.

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1) Woody Allen. Final answer.
2) They each marry half of her.

1) Halachikally permissible.
2) Close.

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1) If it's his daughter by marriage.
2) A half-slave.

1) No that wouldnt work. Besides I said HIS daughter.
2) Nope.

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Btw pure myrh, thanks for being the only one brave enough to guess

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Hint: 1) think yevamos
2) think gittin.

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#1 impossible, you're not even allowed to marry your "tzaras bitta" that is your daughters co-wife.
#2 if someone tells a lady you are married to from now taking effect in 30 days, and the next guy tells her you are married to me from now taking effect in 29 days.


BTW thanks for the hint

1) impossible even bito m'anusaso (rashi in the first mishna in yevamos)
2) the only thing I can think of is that if someone dies and there is a zikka to the husband and she gets kiddushim (or maamar) from his brother.

I am very curious what you are thinking of.



not according to beis shamai (yevamos 13a)

1) True. But there is one case.....

2) Yes thats one of them. Although not the particular case that I had in mind.

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1) Possible, but you'd have to really know all the meforshim on the sugyos there to know exactly who and what.

2)Nope. (Even if you hold zika kiknusa it wouldnt make them both his wife.)

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Please tell us already.

Not everyone guessed yet. I'll make the deadline in a few days. How about sunday?

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a breirah hub ich mit dir??

You always have the option of doing those sugyas really in depth and figuring out the answer. (its not gonna be poshut gmara)

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The answer to the one with his daughter is a little far fetched, according to some rishonim the issur biah only starts at age three. If he marries his daughter off to his brother and his brother dies his daughter falls to yibum to him. (if he would end up doing yibum I dont think she would be koneh but at least it would be classified as a maymar)
As for the two men besides for the cases mentioned theres also a case in the gmara kidushin that assurs her to the world but he excludes someone who can do kidushin.

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sources?

For which?

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who says that there is maamer for a daughter less then 3?

No one says its a maamar. The tos' yeshanim says (to give an explanation for a case of both issurim coming bvas achas) that according to some the issur of bitah doesnt start yet. Therefore she would fall to yibum.

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can you give me an exact address of this tosfos yeshanim?

thx

Its on daf yud gimel amud beis in yivamos.

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