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Pinchas
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/141905

MK Benizri: Homosexuality Causes Earthquakes


(IsraelNN.com) MK Shlomo Benizri (Shas) caused a tremor Wednesday when he linked between homosexuality and earthquakes. Benizri addressed the subject in the course of a debate in the Knesset plenum on earthquake readiness.

"I suggest that the Knesset inquire into how it can prevent sodomy and thus save us a lot of earthquakes," Benizri said.

He later explained to a reporter that the Gemara calls earthquakes "zevaot" and teaches that they are caused by a number of things, including male homosexuality. "I therefore suggested that in order to limit the damage from earthquakes, it would be better to make fewer laws that encourage sodomy and other perversions, like adoption of children by lesbians," he said.
brianna
Oh so that's why San Francisco has earthquakes. dunce.gif

Even if this bs were true, how would lesbians adopting children have anything to do with it? The torah prohibition is very specific. It is not about men having feelings for other men. There is no prohibition against being gay. A specific act is prohibited - that's all. Lesbians and gay guys who only have oral sex are not doing anything that is assur d'oraysa..
shaya_getzl
He could be quoting Talmud, depending on the definition of Andralomusia and Znus.
Moshi
No different than R'Ovaida Yosef's statements in the past, e.g. re: Katrina and Lebanon war casualties.
Xi
QUOTE (brianna @ Feb 20 2008, 05:00 PM) *
Oh so that's why San Francisco has earthquakes. dunce.gif

Even if this bs were true, how would lesbians adopting children have anything to do with it? The torah prohibition is very specific. It is not about men having feelings for other men. There is no prohibition against being gay. A specific act is prohibited - that's all. Lesbians and gay guys who only have oral sex are not doing anything that is assur d'oraysa..

From MT 21:8 it seems that society accepting lesbian marriage specifically is assur (because of the source).
brianna
QUOTE (Xi @ Feb 20 2008, 05:18 PM) *
From MT 21:8 it seems that society accepting lesbian marriage specifically is assur (because of the source).

For the moment, let's forget gay marriage. A pair of lesbians giving a child who would otherwise be in fostercare a loving home sounds like a good idea to me. I mean it's not as if they are having sex in front of the kid. Would you be equally opposed to a pair of sisters adopting children?
doodlehead
QUOTE (brianna @ Feb 20 2008, 05:23 PM) *
For the moment, let's forget gay marriage. A pair of lesbians giving a child who would otherwise be in fostercare a loving home sounds like a good idea to me. I mean it's not as if they are having sex in front of the kid. Would you be equally opposed to a pair of sisters adopting children?

You are teaching a kid (who otherwise would be in fostercare) that being a lesbian is ok.

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brianna
QUOTE (doodlehead @ Feb 20 2008, 05:25 PM) *
You are teaching a kid (who otherwise would be in fostercare) that being a lesbian is ok.

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Being a lesbian is okay.
doodlehead
QUOTE (brianna @ Feb 20 2008, 05:33 PM) *
Being a lesbian is okay.

Oh, I thought we were talking about jews.

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Moshi
QUOTE (doodlehead @ Feb 20 2008, 05:25 PM) *
You are teaching a kid (who otherwise would be in fostercare) that being a lesbian is ok.

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Xi
QUOTE (brianna @ Feb 20 2008, 05:23 PM) *
For the moment, let's forget gay marriage. A pair of lesbians giving a child who would otherwise be in fostercare a loving home sounds like a good idea to me. I mean it's not as if they are having sex in front of the kid. Would you be equally opposed to a pair of sisters adopting children?

As of now in this thread I am not opposed to anyone adopting anyone else.

I was only opposing the 'a certain act is prohibited'.
brianna
QUOTE (Xi @ Feb 20 2008, 06:02 PM) *
As of now in this thread I am not opposed to anyone adopting anyone else.

I was only opposing the 'a certain act is prohibited'.

Women don't have the equipment to perform that certain act.
Pure Myrrh
QUOTE (brianna @ Feb 20 2008, 06:03 PM) *
Women don't have the equipment to perform that certain act.

Imitation equipment can be purchased and attached thereto.
Xi
QUOTE (brianna @ Feb 20 2008, 06:03 PM) *
Women don't have the equipment to perform that certain act.

That's the point.
brianna
QUOTE (Pure Myrrh @ Feb 20 2008, 06:08 PM) *
Imitation equipment can be purchased and attached thereto.

Imitation equipment doesn't make you a man which is the only way you can violate the prohibition.
NY-LON
I love when people claim to know why bad things happen.

Except for the small problem of it making religious Jews look like idiots.
doodlehead
QUOTE (brianna @ Feb 20 2008, 06:20 PM) *
Imitation equipment doesn't make you a man which is the only way you can violate the prohibition.

The prohibition you refer to is "don't sleep with a man as you would a woman", but what ladies have the equipment for is assur under "the practices of mitzrayim".

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brianna
QUOTE (doodlehead @ Feb 20 2008, 07:08 PM) *
The prohibition you refer to is "don't sleep with a man as you would a woman", but what ladies have the equipment for is assur under "the practices of mitzrayim".

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Who gets to decide what the practices of an ancient culture were? And why does it matter what they may or may not have done?
doodlehead
QUOTE (brianna @ Feb 20 2008, 07:13 PM) *
Who gets to decide what the practices of an ancient culture were? And why does it matter what they may or may not have done?

People like rishonim. Thats who pretty much makes up halacha.

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krumlikeapretzel
QUOTE (brianna @ Feb 20 2008, 04:33 PM) *
Being a lesbian is okay.
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krumlikeapretzel
QUOTE (Pinchas @ Feb 20 2008, 03:55 PM) *
MK Benizri: Homosexuality Causes Earthquakes

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brianna
QUOTE (krumlikeapretzel @ Feb 20 2008, 07:52 PM) *
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Oooh you got a fancy smilie for me. I like.
Bitter
QUOTE (NY-LON @ Feb 20 2008, 06:50 PM) *
I love when people claim to know why bad things happen.

Except for the small problem of it making religious Jews look like idiots.

Do most irreligious jews think it's a problem when religious jews look like idiots?
krumlikeapretzel
QUOTE (Bitter @ Feb 20 2008, 08:15 PM) *
 when religious jews look like idiots...
Shas politicians have developed looking like idiots into an art form.
Kalashnikover_Rebbe
QUOTE (krumlikeapretzel @ Feb 21 2008, 02:56 AM) *
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This may very well be the most disturbing thing EVER posted on H.com unsure.gif
krumlikeapretzel
QUOTE (Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Feb 20 2008, 09:18 PM) *
This may very well be the most disturbing thing EVER posted on H.com unsure.gif
So I finally broke my Santa Shach record?
Pinchas
QUOTE (krumlikeapretzel @ Feb 21 2008, 03:56 AM) *
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Nah, like the rest of the world I'm just pissed at Shas.
Kalashnikover_Rebbe
QUOTE (krumlikeapretzel @ Feb 21 2008, 05:50 AM) *
So I finally broke my Santa Shach record?

Oh yes, this is in an entirely different category....
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