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pleats
What does the name Pessel mean? Where does it come from?
ruthie
I think it's a variation of pessi? doesn't pessel mean an idol?
Bezalel99
Wikipedia (under pizzle) indicates that there was a "Low German pesel or Flemish Dutch pezel, diminutive of Dutch pees 'sinew'. The word is used today to signify the {organ of procreation of a male} animal, particularly that of a bull."

Then there's "pestle," which Wikipedia says derives "from classical Latin pistillum, meaning 'pounder.' "
Goldfish
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/renasanc.htm
By this time, the Yiddish language had developed to such an extent, that a large number of Yiddish names were created by modifying Arab, Latin, Germanic, and Slavic names, and by adapting old names: Alkan, Danel, Davud, Gadel, Henoch, Hosea, Isaak, Israel, Isser, Izaak, Josel, Jude, Judel, Kopel, Leyser, Michel, Musa, Shmelka; Abigaya, Pessl, Pessla, Hanne, Hendel, Chanele, Merle, Michele, Pessel, Reichel, Zirle.

http://www.babynamesocean.com/hebrew_names...g_of_Batya.html
Pronunciation: baht-yah
Gender: Girl Name
Origin: Hebrew
Name Meaning: Daughter of God
Variants: Basha; Peshe, Pessel (Yiddish)


Also:

http://www.gaminggeeks.org/Resources/KateM...ish/Yiddish.htm
Pessa, Pesha, Peshe, Pessye Perril, Pessel 'pearl'
Bezalel99
QUOTE (Goldfish @ Feb 25 2008, 05:04 PM) *
Pronunciation: baht-yah

Variants: Basha; Peshe, Pessel (Yiddish)


That's interesting. I can see a "p" being substituted for a "b", but it seems odd to add an "l" at the end.
Tova
QUOTE (pleats @ Feb 25 2008, 04:38 PM) *
What does the name Pessel mean? Where does it come from?

Very interesting that you ask. I saw my grandparents ketubah and her name on it was Pessel, but in Yiddish she was known as Pessa-- suffice it to say, her matzeivah says Pessa.
ruthie
Can I ask about another name? where does Shprintza come from? We were told it means hope?
Xi
QUOTE (ruthie @ Feb 25 2008, 05:24 PM) *
Can I ask about another name? where does Shprintza come from? We were told it means hope?

Esperanza -- hope.
batya_d
How interesting, I did not know Pessy/pessel was a derivative of Batya! Wow, all the new nickname possibilities...
International
Wow, this thread was an eye opener to me, I named my Daughter Pessel (My great grandmother) but didn't really know what it means.

By the krias Shem, Rabbi Koenig from tzfas who was present at the time said I should say pessel rather then pessy-ah.

krumlikeapretzel
QUOTE (ruthie @ Feb 25 2008, 03:53 PM) *
I think it's a variation of pessi? doesn't pessel mean an idol?
nice.
A great aunt of mine who died in the Holocaust at age 6 or 7 was called Pessel.
Elana
QUOTE (batya_d @ Feb 25 2008, 06:57 PM) *
How interesting, I did not know Pessy/pessel/Pesha was a derivative of Batya!


ditto! i also didn't know Basha was in that group, too
agent220
(I know a Basya who was named for a Basha)
International
(I know a Rasya who was named for a Rasha)
asoul
Pesel means graven image. But I am not sure that pesel in its meaning is equal to pessel.
Goldfish
QUOTE (asoul @ Feb 28 2008, 11:39 AM) *
Pesel means graven image. But I am not sure that pesel in its meaning is equal to pessel.

It's not the English spelling that matters, but the Hebrew/Yiddish. I believe the name is spelled with two ayins.

Just because two words are homophones, doesn't mean they're the same word.
Spiffy
QUOTE (ruthie @ Feb 26 2008, 12:24 AM) *
Can I ask about another name? where does Shprintza come from? We were told it means hope?

I thought it meant Spring.
Goldfish
No, Xi was right.

http://www.behindthename.com/name/shprintza
SHPRINTZA
Gender: Feminine
Usage: Yiddish
Other Scripts: שְׁפּרִינְצָא (Yiddish)
Yiddish form of ESPERANZA


Elana
what language is esperanza - spanish? how did it get to yiddish?
miri
Lots of Jews from Spain went to Eastern Europe after the Inquisition.

So Esperanza eventually yiddishized to Shprintza, and Juanita became Yenta.
Belle
QUOTE (miri @ Feb 28 2008, 01:39 PM) *
Lots of Jews from Spain went to Eastern Europe after the Inquisition.

So Esperanza eventually yiddishized to Shprintza, and Juanita became Yenta.


Are you serious? Where'd you read that? That's pretty funky.
Elana
QUOTE (miri @ Feb 28 2008, 01:39 PM) *
Lots of Jews from Spain went to Eastern Europe after the Inquisition.

So Esperanza eventually yiddishized to Shprintza, and Juanita became Yenta.


oh. this is so interesting. thanks, i didn't know this.
Xi
QUOTE (Belle @ Feb 28 2008, 02:57 PM) *
Are you serious? Where'd you read that? That's pretty funky.

In general, checking into the history of names (and words in general) leads to very funky results. There was an article on Jewish names once in (I think) the Mosaica Digest (if such a thing exists at all). If you remind me next Thursday maybe I can try to find it and send it to you.
asoul
QUOTE (Goldfish @ Feb 28 2008, 12:06 PM) *
I believe the name is spelled with two ayins.


Two ayins huh.gif ?
Goldfish
QUOTE (asoul @ Mar 2 2008, 11:05 AM) *
Two ayins huh.gif ?

Yes, there are vowels in Yiddish, unlike in Hebrew, which uses nekudot. I could be wrong, but I can't see how you'd make the "eh" sounds without ayins.
Xi
QUOTE (Goldfish @ Mar 2 2008, 11:44 AM) *
Yes, there are vowels in Yiddish, unlike in Hebrew, which uses nekudot. I could be wrong, but I can't see how you'd make the "eh" sounds without ayins.

The second ayin is sometimes skipped before the final lamed.
krumlikeapretzel
QUOTE (asoul @ Mar 2 2008, 10:05 AM) *
Two ayins huh.gif ?

עעשפרינצא
עעיענטא
עעפתל
asoul
wacko.gif I don't grasp you... In Hebrew pesel is פסל . Where here may be two ayins? rolleyes4.gif

Are Hebrew and Yiddish so different in writing? unsure.gif
Goldfish
QUOTE (asoul @ Mar 3 2008, 11:36 AM) *
wacko.gif I don't grasp you... In Hebrew pesel is פסל . Where here may be two ayins?

Pessel the Yiddish name is not pessel the Hebrew word for idol. פﬠסﬠל

QUOTE
Are Hebrew and Yiddish so different in writing? unsure.gif

To quote myself from above:

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Yes, there are vowels in Yiddish, unlike in Hebrew, which uses nekudot.
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