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brianna
Anyone else think that the learned have more ammunition against Orthodoxy than the ignorant? I mean before I got to this site, I had no idea that the gemerah says women are lazy and/or stupid and that we are compared to steak.
Moshi
QUOTE (brianna @ Feb 25 2008, 11:40 PM) *
we are compared to steak.


I've never heard of this one, but if I were a woman I'd be flattered, considering how much men love steak.
Psychodad
Yea, steak is a good thing
Kalashnikover_Rebbe
QUOTE (Psychodad @ Feb 26 2008, 02:42 PM) *
Yea, steak is a good thing

Agreed, I can't think of a more complimentary term of endearment....
melech
QUOTE (Moshi @ Feb 26 2008, 07:37 AM) *
I've never heard of this one, but if I were a woman I'd be flattered, considering how much men love steak.

The context is that her husband can do with her as he pleases:

QUOTE (Soncino)
R. Johanan said: The above is the view of R. Johanan b. Dahabai; but our Sages said: The halachah is not as R. Johanan b. Dahabai, but a man may do whatever he pleases with his wife [at intercourse]: A parable; Meat which comes from the abattoir, may be eaten salted, roasted, cooked or seethed
Goldfish
QUOTE (Moshi @ Feb 26 2008, 07:37 AM) *
I've never heard of this one, but if I were a woman I'd be flattered, considering how much men love steak.

I'd rather smell like a steak than Chanel No. 5 (or any other perfume). biggrin.gif
Moshi
QUOTE (melech @ Feb 26 2008, 09:34 AM) *
The context is that her husband can do with her as he pleases:


Oh yes. Even better!
krumlikeapretzel
If women are steak, then men are potatoes no? Sometimes half-baked potatoes...
Commander In Chief
how about Isha cheimas maleh tzoah v'hackol ratzin achraha

(someone else can translate if they wish...)
krumlikeapretzel
QUOTE (Commander In Chief @ Feb 26 2008, 11:42 AM) *
how about Isha cheimas maleh tzoah v'hackol ratzin achraha

(someone else can translate if they wish...)
With that kind of statements, is it any surprise someone would say "hashmed et hachared" or "dros kol dos"?
(someone else can translate if they wish...)
shaya_getzl
You're not doubting they knew the subject ...
politico
QUOTE (brianna @ Feb 25 2008, 11:40 PM) *
Anyone else think that the learned have more ammunition against Orthodoxy than the ignorant?

"knowledge is power"
myaccountname
QUOTE (brianna @ Feb 26 2008, 12:40 AM) *
Anyone else think that the learned have more ammunition against Orthodoxy than the ignorant? I mean before I got to this site, I had no idea that the gemerah says women are lazy and/or stupid and that we are compared to steak.


it took you four years to learn all of that?
brianna
QUOTE (myaccountname @ Feb 26 2008, 09:25 PM) *
it took you four years to learn all of that?

What on earth are you talking about?
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