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existwhere?
Are you allowed to get medicine from an inhaler on S and YT?

Out of curiousity, as an aside, a medical question: how does a baby use an inhaler?
Shemmy
QUOTE (existwhere? @ Feb 27 2008, 12:13 AM) *
Are you allowed to get medicine from an inhaler on S and YT?


As someone who has had their lung capacity reduced to below 25% as a result of ashtma, and as someone who has acquaintenes whom have lost loved ones to asthma, I'm going to say that one may get medicine from an inhaler on shabbath and yom tob due to pequah nefesh.
Shuli
QUOTE (existwhere? @ Feb 27 2008, 12:13 AM) *
Out of curiousity, as an aside, a medical question: how does a baby use an inhaler?


A nebulizer w/ mask.
existwhere?
QUOTE (Shemmy @ Feb 27 2008, 12:25 AM) *
As someone who has had their lung capacity reduced to below 25% as a result of ashtma, and as someone who has acquaintenes whom have lost loved ones to asthma, I'm going to say that one may get medicine from an inhaler on shabbath and yom tob due to pequah nefesh.

OK, but what about an inhaler for bronchitis? (Where it's not life- threatening at the time)

QUOTE (Shuli @ Feb 27 2008, 01:58 AM) *
A nebulizer w/ mask.

Interesting, thanks.
Bezalel99
I wondered about zoreh, and then thought, "the person isn't spraying something into the wind, but rather directly into their nose or mouth, so would the air inside a person's body be included"? But spraying something directly into the wind is per the Yerushalmi rather than the Bavli, and many rabbis throughout the ages have disagreed.

Rabbi David Botton says that it's okay to use a spray deodorant onto the body, but not to "Spray yourself with a perfume in a venturi-tube style container (old perfume bottles with the bulb and tube hooked to a nozle that has a straw going down to the perfume)." I'm not sure what the difference is.

Many big poskim seem to be mekeil when it comes to spraying in general:
http://www.dailyhalacha.com/Display.asp?Pa...&ClipID=930
Again, these are all with regard to spraying outside the body, and if someone is spraying inside the body, it might well be even farther removed from the Yerushalmi's view on zoreh.
Shemmy
QUOTE (existwhere? @ Feb 27 2008, 06:12 AM) *
OK, but what about an inhaler for bronchitis? (Where it's not life- threatening at the time)



Can bronchitis, if not properly treated, become life-threatening?
Moshi
What would be the problem? That you might come to grind the contents of the inhaler?
greentiger
QUOTE (existwhere? @ Feb 27 2008, 02:12 PM) *
OK, but what about an inhaler for bronchitis? (Where it's not life- threatening at the time)

I suppose it would fall under the category of other medications...? If so, then it would probably depend what is IN the inhaler. If it's taken regularly as preventive measure, I beleive there would be no problem.
greentiger
QUOTE (Shuli @ Feb 27 2008, 09:58 AM) *
A nebulizer w/ mask.

They've also got these attachment masks for the inhaler itself.

While we're on topic: you should wash your mouth out after using an inhaler. Some of the meds can cause fungus to develop in the throat.
Elana
QUOTE (Shuli @ Feb 27 2008, 01:58 AM) *
A nebulizer w/ mask.


my daughter absolutely refused the mask; had to do without it
Arizona
It's life-saving medicine. If I need it, I take it.
drdave
aero chamber- the inhaler is put on one end and a mask goes over the child's nose and mouth. When you depress the inhaler, the mist flows through the tube and the child breathes it in(or if they're screaming, just hold the mask over their face with a complete seal against their nose and mouth and the medication will be inhaled)
mendelbaum666
asthma sufferers are allowed to take their inhalers on shabbos pretty much no matter what as not taking them, can cause sakanos nefashos no matter what.
Taking medicine on shabbos can not be compared to a body spray as again one is sakanos nefashos and the other is stam oneg.

as for a nebulizer, I know many people who have chumras that would make your head spin, have it plugged into a shabbos clock even when they do not use a shabbos clock for anything else.

again as I have said previously these type of questions should not be answered here on h.com but MUST be asked of from a competent reliable and knowledgeable RAV
Elana
QUOTE (mendelbaum666 @ Feb 27 2008, 08:41 PM) *
as for a nebulizer, I know many people who have chumras that would make your head spin, have it plugged into a shabbos clock even when they do not use a shabbos clock for anything else.


how is plugging it into a shabbos clock if otherwise people don't use it a chumra? if anything, it's being more lax in this instance? (are there people who don't use shabbos clocks as a chumra?)
mendelbaum666
R' Moshe Feinstein paskened that among other things most people use now a days on shabbos like an eruv in Brooklyn one should not use a shabbos clock on anything ( one reason is mores ayin, I personally do not understand how but who am I to argue with a gadol hador).

they are makpid on a lot but makil on the shabbos clock for the kids medicine , it goes on every 4 hours and shuuts off after 30 minutes, enough time I guess for the crumb muncher to takes his meds
Elana
i see. your previous post got me a little confused (i know how it works, i've used it for my daughter, on shabbos included)
mendelbaum666
sorry did not mean to confuse you or anyone else around here, I know real life can be confusing enough rolleyes.gif
U Tarzan me Jane
I have gone so far as turning it on manually on shabbat if it was necessary.
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