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What do Ashkenazim do when seu'dath Purim is ereb Shabbath?
QUOTE (Shemmy @ Mar 1 2008, 09:29 PM) 
What do Ashkenazim do when seu'dath Purim is ereb Shabbath?
I looked at the Rema today and I believe he says to make it before chatzos.
What do sefardim do?
They make the seudah earlier than normal on Friday, and TRY to be in some coherent shape by the time Shabbos comes in.
Last year I was unsuccessful....
Last year I was unsuccessful....
QUOTE (The Rabbi @ Mar 1 2008, 11:58 PM)
I looked at the Rema today and I believe he says to make it before chatzos.
What do sefardim do?
What do sefardim do?
The proper practice for Sephardim and Edoth Hamizrah is to pray minha earlier in the day, and to make the se'uda late, heading into Shabbath. When Shabbath comes, one pauses the meal covers whatever needs to be covered (whether just the bread, all grian products, or the entire meal depends on whom you ask), say kiddush, then finish the meal. Birkath hamazon is to be said with both retse and al hanisim. After the meal and birkath hamazon, one prays arbith.
I'm asking because the "Sephardim" around here probably aren't going to follow this and I was hoping I could get a minyan from the apartment building to do it, but since most of the people in the building are Ashkenazi, that probably isn't going to work
Our shul is having the seudah at 1pm. Since chatzot is 1:15ish I don't see how we can daven beforehand. hm.
QUOTE (Shemmy @ Mar 2 2008, 08:35 AM)
The proper practice for Sephardim and Edoth Hamizrah is to pray minha earlier in the day, and to make the se'uda late, heading into Shabbath. When Shabbath comes, one pauses the meal covers whatever needs to be covered (whether just the bread, all grian products, or the entire meal depends on whom you ask), say kiddush, then finish the meal. Birkath hamazon is to be said with both retse and al hanisim. After the meal and birkath hamazon, one prays arbith.
I'm asking because the "Sephardim" around here probably aren't going to follow this and I was hoping I could get a minyan from the apartment building to do it, but since most of the people in the building are Ashkenazi, that probably isn't going to work
I'm asking because the "Sephardim" around here probably aren't going to follow this and I was hoping I could get a minyan from the apartment building to do it, but since most of the people in the building are Ashkenazi, that probably isn't going to work
QUOTE (KABA @ Mar 3 2008, 04:11 PM)
Our shul is having the seudah at 1pm. Since chatzot is 1:15ish I don't see how we can daven beforehand.
I'll assume it's an Ashkenazi place.
QUOTE (Shemmy @ Mar 2 2008, 08:35 AM)
The proper practice for Sephardim and Edoth Hamizrah is to pray minha earlier in the day, and to make the se'uda late, heading into Shabbath. When Shabbath comes, one pauses the meal covers whatever needs to be covered (whether just the bread, all grian products, or the entire meal depends on whom you ask), say kiddush, then finish the meal. Birkath hamazon is to be said with both retse and al hanisim. After the meal and birkath hamazon, one prays arbith.
I'm asking because the "Sephardim" around here probably aren't going to follow this and I was hoping I could get a minyan from the apartment building to do it, but since most of the people in the building are Ashkenazi, that probably isn't going to work
I'm asking because the "Sephardim" around here probably aren't going to follow this and I was hoping I could get a minyan from the apartment building to do it, but since most of the people in the building are Ashkenazi, that probably isn't going to work
Do Sephardim who follow that practice work during the day?
I don't see how the average Ashkenazi is going to work, since they have a megilla reading in the morning, a seuda at lunch, and have to leave early to get ready for Shabbos. I wish I could find people following the custom you describe.
QUOTE (Bezalel99 @ Mar 3 2008, 05:08 PM)
Do Sephardim who follow that practice work during the day?
I don't see how the average Ashkenazi is going to work, since they have a megilla reading in the morning, a seuda at lunch, and have to leave early to get ready for Shabbos. I wish I could find people following the custom you describe.
I don't see how the average Ashkenazi is going to work, since they have a megilla reading in the morning, a seuda at lunch, and have to leave early to get ready for Shabbos. I wish I could find people following the custom you describe.
Let's see, observant Jews are going to leave work early on Friday anyway, so if they read minha even half an hour earlier (synagogues around here read minha the nearest five minutes to lighting), that still leaves time to start the Purim meal before the beginning of Shabbat. The key here is that the meal is not finished before Shabbat, but that the meal starts just before Shabbat and one pauses the meal in order to read kiddush, and then resumes the meal. Arbith is prayed later than usual - it is read after the meal is finished and birkath hamazon is read with both retse and al hanisim. I don't see what the problem is?
There's no problem; I just don't know what I'll do.
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