This is why Arab labor should never be used - EVER - by Jews!

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/142888

Arabs Say Terrorist Was a Driver for Mercaz HaRav Kook

(IsraelNN.com) Arab sources told news agencies that the terrorist who murdered eight Mercaz HaRav Kook yeshiva students Thursday had previously been employed as a driver for the yeshiva.

They said the murderer was Alla Abu-Dehin, 20, of Jebel Mukabar in eastern Jerusalem, and that he had been employed as a driver for Mercaz HaRav Kook. They added that Abu-Dehin was arrested by Israel's security forces four months ago and was released after two months in jail.

The murderer's family set up a mourners' tent outside their Jebel Mukabar home and adorned it with Hamas flags. Hamas praised the massacre but did not take responsibility for it.

krumlikeapretzel, you said "What just happened in Merkaz Harav is a tragedy. I don't know that there's anyone besides the evil murderers yimach shmam to blame, but don't you blame me for it. If anything, peaceniks like me want to make peace precisely so these aweful events shouldn't happen." What planet are you on??? the arabs in gaza were out in the streets celebrating like its 1999! along the roads of yehuda and shomron they drove around wildly cheering, with parties all over villages. even in the old city of jerusalem you could hear the celebrations. my problem with so called "peaceniks" is that their peace always comes at the jews expense.

and grimmy, what exactly didnt you like about the end of the last thread? it didnt seem to bother you that a rabbi was horribly defamed and lied about, but after other posts you suddenly closed it. so degrading rabbis is ok here i guess

I closed it because there was post after post of name calling and personal attacks. Do not let that happen here.

This was my guess as soon as I heard what happened. I said to my friends "I bet it was the Janitor".....

People forget who we're dealing with here. In 1929 in Hebron, Arabs who were BEST friends with their Jewish neighbors, turned on them and hacked them to death with axes and bludgeoned them with clubs...

You can take the Adam out of the Pere, but it seems as if you can't take the Pere out of the Adam.....

ahem... I think there's a correlation-causation issue here.

I don't think Arabs who work with Jews, or whatever, hate Jews more (for whatever reason) or are more likely to want to commit terror attacks. I do think that it affects their ability to carry one out "successfully" (hate having to use that word). It's pretty obvious that his familiarity with the yeshiva was a huge help--he knew when and where to go (inside job).

And you know, I'm relatively peacenik around these parts (two state solution supporter) but I don't think that a settlement is going to make everyone drop their guns and sing Kumbaya. You think 60 years of hate are going to be erased in an instant? Not a chance.

Of course it's not a correlation-causation issue. Who said it was?

But yes, it's because he was familiar with the Yeshiva. They said he watched them for a while and took notes.

There is a possibility for *any* workplace to produce disgruntled workers, and 
the terrorists know it and exploited it. It's not that any non-Jew who works with Jews will end up hating Jews, rather it's that a non-Jewish employee who works for Jews and goes "postal" will usually generalize his anger into anti-semitism.

Where does the number 60 come from? the hebron massacre mentioned in the post preceding yours was around 80 years ago, yes before 1948.

yes, ok, it goes back before that but I was thinking 1948, which is a pretty important date. certainly when we're talking about refugees and the like, that's the date we need to talk about. And things became very different once there was an actual Israel to focus on.

Yeah but the point is that the "hate" or whatever you want to call it, started before there even WAS a "refugee problem" and before 1948. which leaves one to believe that 1948 is not really the issue\problem.

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Wasn't it the Grand Mufti of Jersualem who was very chummy with Hitler (obv. long before Israel existed) and lets not forget those Albanian Muslims who joined the SS during WW2. This has been going on long before Israel existed. Israel is just an excuse to kill Jews and the Europeans get to sit in their ivory towers and moralise about how bad the Jews are (again).

I'm using Firefox...

Must be the version of FF then.. hmm...

you make an interesting point

Yes Hajj Amin al-Husayni(Grand Mufti of Palestine beginning around 1918 appointed by the British) took refuge in Germany during the War and for that the Palestinians payed dearly after the war because Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Syria and Saudi Arabia aligned with the Soviets to prevent the Nazis from taking over the rest of the Muslim middle east after conquering most of North Africa. So as a result the Palestinians were on the wrong side of the War and enjoyed no support post WII from any regional power due to Hajj Amin al-Husanyi's decision to go shack up with Hitler and train Bosnian Muslims in Croatia 20,000 troops. Here's a picture of him inspecting troops. http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/mufti.jpg


Also about the refugee issue starting in '48, that's not so correct either. Some people that call themselves refugees even though their families left Jaffa, Tiberias areas or other Arab Villages years earlier in 1939 and that time. They fled because of the British rule on Palestine seeking better lives with autonomy in other Arab States.

this is a great source of the controversy around the Refugee issue for the Arabs because they still claim themselves as refugees who left their homes in EY but they left during a time when Britain was the controlling power not the Jews.