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motcha
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By GIANNI CIPRIANO
Published: March 9, 2008
TAKE the D train to 55th Street in central Brooklyn, and you feel as if you have set foot in a different world.The station sits at the junction of New Utrecht Avenue, 13th Avenue and 55th Street in the heart of Borough Park, home to a quarter-million Orthodox Jews, one of the largest concentrations of Jews outside Israel. To travel to Borough Park is to journey through both space and time. There you may meet David Sondik, an exuberant Orthodox Jew who sings as he walks. Speaking very fast, he stops a visitor and pulls out a picture of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the seventh and last rebbe of the Chabad-Lubavitch movement, based in Crown Heights.

The magical moment in Borough Park comes after sunset. The empty streets and the street lights create an almost surreal atmosphere, peopled by Jewish men in black coats heading home or to shul, and students making their way to Talmudical Seminary of Bobov.

If you had walked into Congregation Khal Chasidim on 49th Street and 15th Avenue on a recent Sunday evening, you would have seen a Jewish bride receiving her women attendants before her wedding. An hour later, thousands of people milled outside the synagogue, near the platform on which the wedding was taking place.

That evening, many hundreds of men gathered on the streets and on a grandstand to sing for the groom, who with other young Jewish men formed a circle and held hands to dance the horah. By midnight, the bride and groom were dancing in the center of the synagogue as guests stood on chairs and barriers, hoping for a better view.

First person you meet in Boro Park is a Lubavitcher?
Chasidim dance the hora?
Goldfish
Link?
krumlikeapretzel
QUOTE (motcha @ Mar 9 2008, 09:17 PM) *
First person you meet in Boro Park is a Lubavitcher?
They have a special magnet that seeks non-frum people. Try going to Boro Park wearing Jeans, a t-shirt and a baseball cap, and you'll be greeted by a Lubavitcher too.

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Chasidim dance the hora?
Hora=Jews dancing in a circle holding hands. Don't think so? Well the author of the article does.
existwhere?
Why do I always feel the articles don't present the Boro Park of Boro Parkers, but a New York Times- y version of Boro Park?
Rachel8
QUOTE (Goldfish @ Mar 9 2008, 11:20 PM) *
Link?

In the Land of Black Coats
krumlikeapretzel
QUOTE (existwhere? @ Mar 9 2008, 09:59 PM) *
Why do I always feel the articles don't present the Boro Park of Boro Parkers, but a New York Times- y version of Boro Park?
They see the world through their own distorted, ethnocentric POV. Like everybody else, actually.
NY-LON
heh - for once I agree with krum. If a random person walks into BP they probably WILL be greeted by a Chabadnik. I think they have some kind of built in radar.

And yeah, non-Jews do think "circle dancing at wedding" = hora. Look at the author's name.
lyric
There have been whole tv documentaries about orthodox Jewish centres in the UK. Volvo City was about Stamford Hill and Golders Green, and I forget the name of the one about the Manchester kehilla. They were cringeworthy because they exposed so much that an outsider would never understand, but they were fairly accurate. The degree of accuracy was heightened because the presenter was following an orthodox Jew around on his daily life, while he explained what he was doing, so there was less room for misinterpretation. But it still left us feeling like a freak show and why did they have to do it?
Pinchas
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By midnight, the bride and groom were dancing in the center of the synagogue


Yeah - that's about right...
Goldfish
QUOTE (Rachel8 @ Mar 10 2008, 12:01 AM) *

Oh. The OP was the whole thing. I thought there was more. Cuz that's not much of an article.
Very Lucky Guy
I am confused. How is Boro(ugh) Park accurately spelled?
Goldfish
QUOTE (Very Lucky Guy @ Mar 10 2008, 09:29 AM) *
I am confused. How is Boro(ugh) Park accurately spelled?

Borough is the correct spelling. Boro is the colloquial spelling.
Pinchas
QUOTE (Very Lucky Guy @ Mar 10 2008, 03:29 PM) *
I am confused. How is Boro(ugh) Park accurately spelled?


$
greentiger
QUOTE (lyric @ Mar 10 2008, 03:04 PM) *
There have been whole tv documentaries about orthodox Jewish centres in the UK. Volvo City was about Stamford Hill and Golders Green, and I forget the name of the one about the Manchester kehilla. They were cringeworthy because they exposed so much that an outsider would never understand, but they were fairly accurate. The degree of accuracy was heightened because the presenter was following an orthodox Jew around on his daily life, while he explained what he was doing, so there was less room for misinterpretation. But it still left us feeling like a freak show and why did they have to do it?

It's fascinating. It's always interesitng to learn about the lifestyles of other cultures that are different to your own, especially if you come in contact with them on a daily basis.
Elana
QUOTE (Pinchas @ Mar 10 2008, 07:30 AM) *
Yeah - that's about right...


i'm sure, the author pictured something like "the couple's first dance together". you know, the one that people take classes to learn dunce.gif
Margaux
I find this thread/article amusing.

Just for the record, if a random person walked into BP, they probably would not be approached by a Lubavitch guy. There is one "singing Rabbi" who walks the streets...but he strikes up conversations with strangers for reasons other than kiruv.

Bluelaptop
QUOTE (Gretchen @ Mar 10 2008, 10:22 AM) *
I find this thread/article amusing.

Just for the record, if a random person walked into BP, they probably would not be approached by a Lubavitch guy. There is one "singing Rabbi" who walks the streets...but he strikes up conversations with strangers for reasons other than kiruv.

The 'lubavitch guy' pictured looks like the singing Breslover of 13th
shaya_getzl
QUOTE (Gretchen @ Mar 10 2008, 11:22 AM) *
I find this thread/article amusing.

Just for the record, if a random person walked into BP, they probably would not be approached by a Lubavitch guy. There is one "singing Rabbi" who walks the streets...but he strikes up conversations with strangers for reasons other than kiruv.


His epicenter is the "minimi" Skwer on 46th. I don't think he strays too far from there. Interesting choice for a "Breslaver", if he is one ...
Margaux
QUOTE (shaya_getzl @ Mar 10 2008, 11:52 AM) *
His epicenter is the "minimi" Skwer on 46th. I don't think he strays too far from there. Interesting choice for a "Breslaver", if he is one ...



I think people just assume he is Breslov.
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