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shaya_getzl
Ah ! We have a Heterosexual Governor, after all, unlike those across the bridge ...
Rachel8
I was just going to post this. Unbelievable!
Rachel8
QUOTE (shaya_getzl @ Mar 10 2008, 02:45 PM) *
Ah ! We have a Heterosexual Governor, after all, unlike those across the bridge ...

Hey, that was our former governor, not our current one. rolleyes.gif
Pinchas
Times site is slow so I'm posting it here for now...


March 10, 2008
Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring
By DANNY HAKIM and WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM

ALBANY - Gov. Eliot Spitzer has informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in a prostitution ring, an administration official said this morning.

Mr. Spitzer, who was huddled with his top aides inside his Fifth Avenue apartment early this afternoon, had hours earlier abruptly canceled his scheduled public events for the day. He scheduled an announcement for 2:15 after inquiries from the Times.

Mr. Spitzer, a first term Democrat who pledged to bring ethics reform an end the often seamy ways of Albany, is married with three children.

Just last week, federal prosecutors arrested four people in connection with an expensive prostitution operation. Administration officials would not say that this was the ring with which the governor had become involved.

But a person with knowledge of the governor’s role said that the person believes the governor is one of the men identified as clients in court papers.

The governor’s travel records show that he was in Washington in mid-February. One of the clients described in court papers arranged to meet with a prostitute who was part of the ring, the Emperors Club VIP on the night of Feb. 13.

Mr. Spitzer appeared on a CNBC television show at 7 a.m. the next morning. Later in the morning, he testified before a Congressional committee.

An affidavit filed in federal court in Manhattan in connection with that case lists six conversations between the man, identified as Client 9, and a booking agent for the Emperors Club.

He had a difficult first year in office, rocked by a mix of scandal and legislative setbacks. In recent weeks, however, Mr. Spitzer seemed to have rebounded, with his Democratic party poised to perhaps gain control of the state Senate for the first time in four decades.

Mr. Spitzer gained national attention when he served as attorney general with his relentless pursuit of Wall Street wrongdoing. As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force.

In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.

“”This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. ”It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”

Albany for months has been roiled by bitter fighting and accusations of dirty tricks. The Albany County district attorney is set to issue in the coming days the results of his investigation into Mr. Spitzer’s first scandal, his aides’ involvement in an effort to tarnish Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno, the state’s top Republican.
Pure Myrrh
Since when do prostitutes wear rings? The whole thing doesn't make sense.
shaya_getzl
QUOTE (Rachel8 @ Mar 10 2008, 01:49 PM) *
Hey, that was our former governor, not our current one. rolleyes.gif

The current one isn't done with his book yet. Give him some time.

The whole thing smells of Kushner ...
Very Lucky Guy
This is great. I hope this a@@hole gets what's coming.
shaya_getzl
QUOTE (Very Lucky Guy @ Mar 10 2008, 02:10 PM) *
This is great. I hope this a@@hole gets what's coming.

Come on, he was supposedly a simple man's friend...
Rachel8
Governor Spitzer to resign

NEW YORK (WABC) -- Sources tell Eyewitness News that Governor Eliot Spitzer going to resign, after being linked to a prostitution ring in a published report.
Eyewitness News is told Spitzer will make an announcement Monday afternoon.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=...&id=6010544
Pure Myrrh
QUOTE (Very Lucky Guy @ Mar 10 2008, 02:10 PM) *
This is great. I hope this a@@hole gets what's coming.

Midah k'neged midah, would that be?
Moshi
whoa
Kalashnikover_Rebbe
You would think that Federal Prosecutors would have better things to do than bust high profile hookers..... rolleyes.gif

Normally I would say who cares?, but this guy was a self proclaimed crusader and ironically got caught with his pants down......
I hope it was worth it....
Elana
i feel bad for his wife and kids.

(did you see those prostitutes' hourly rates?)
Goldfish
QUOTE (Rachel8 @ Mar 10 2008, 03:14 PM) *
Governor Spitzer to resign

Holy moly.
Pinchas
QUOTE (Elana @ Mar 10 2008, 10:57 PM) *
i feel bad for his wife and kids.

(did you see those prostitutes' hourly rates?)


Well according to this - he didn't go for the 7 stars... more like 4 stars... half the price of 7...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years...82spitzer1.html
Natanel
QUOTE
Well according to this - he didn't go for the 7 stars... more like 4 stars... half the price of 7...


rofl.gif whatta jew
brianna
My first reaction:

Oh puh-lease. He cheated on his wife. Remind me why it's anyone's business? I don't care where lawmakers put their penises.

My second reaction:

Serves the bastard right. He was always harsh with others' indiscretions. Now nobody will stand up for him.


The whole paying for sex thing is kind of ambiguous in my opinion. I doubt Anna Nicole Smith married that old geezer for love and that was legal. Taking money for a lifetime of sex is fine but paying for just one night of sex is illegal. I'd like someone to explain that one.
Psychodad
QUOTE (brianna @ Mar 10 2008, 06:56 PM) *
Taking money for a lifetime of sex is fine but paying for just one night of sex is illegal. I'd like someone to explain that one.

more bang for your buck
brianna
QUOTE (Psychodad @ Mar 10 2008, 06:59 PM) *
more bang for your buck

laugh.gif Not really. Gold digger trophy wives can be pretty darned expensive in the long run.
BLUERIVER
QUOTE (Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Mar 10 2008, 02:28 PM) *
Normally I would say who cares?, but this guy was a self proclaimed crusader and ironically got caught with his pants down......
I hope it was worth it....

To add insult to (self)injury, the dog can't even seem to put together a decent apology. What a miserable piece of work.
brianna
QUOTE (BLUERIVER @ Mar 10 2008, 07:03 PM) *
To add insult to (self)injury, the dog can't even seem to put together a decent apology. What a miserable piece of work.

What's he supposed to say? And for all anyone knows, he had an arrangement with his wife. Again, why is this anyone's business?
Pinchas
QUOTE (BLUERIVER @ Mar 11 2008, 02:03 AM) *
To add insult to (self)injury, the dog can't even seem to put together a decent apology. What a miserable piece of work.


To be fair. He couldn't say more than his lawyer would let him, no doubt.
Kalashnikover_Rebbe
QUOTE (brianna @ Mar 11 2008, 01:05 AM) *
What's he supposed to say? And for all anyone knows, he had an arrangement with his wife. Again, why is this anyone's business?

Because he is a hypocrite and went to great lengths to ruthlessly bust people exactly like himself.....
brianna
QUOTE (Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Mar 10 2008, 08:22 PM) *
Because he is a hypocrite and went to great lengths to ruthlessly bust people exactly like himself.....

Thus my point #2. You know I'm truly annoyed that the guy ruined my opportunity to talk loudly about the fact that prostitution should be legal. *grumble
Rachel8
QUOTE (Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Mar 10 2008, 08:22 PM) *
Because he is a hypocrite and went to great lengths to ruthlessly bust people exactly like himself.....

Exactly. I don't personally care who he sleeps with, that's between him and his wife, but what does bother me is the hypocrisy of this whole situation. He was this big champion of fighting corruption and crime in NY as Attorney General, and yet here he is acting as if he is above the law and embroiled in the same type of prostitution ring as the people he helped bring down in 2004.
BLUERIVER
QUOTE (Pinchas @ Mar 10 2008, 06:05 PM) *
To be fair. He couldn't say more than his lawyer would let him, no doubt.

He's not, imho, facing any real risk of jail time, unlike many of his previous targets. Most likely he'll reach a settlement involving an admission of guilt and a significant fine. Poor little spoiled brat Elliot, not such a tzadik after all...
accolade
The worst two sins in America are lying and hypocricy (to the American people).
Moshi
Is he linked to a "prostitution ring", or did he just have some good times with a lady one night?




And also, is all this not loshon hara? ph34r.gif
politico
should be interesting to see if this has any effect on the clinton campaign (aside from the obvious loss of a superdelegate if he resigns).
Bezalel99
QUOTE (politico @ Mar 10 2008, 08:33 PM) *
should be interesting to see if this has any effect on the clinton campaign (aside from the obvious loss of a superdelegate if he resigns).


Does this qualify him to run for President?
Kalashnikover_Rebbe
QUOTE (Bezalel99 @ Mar 11 2008, 03:40 AM) *
Does this qualify him to run for President?

It depends on whether or not he inhaled.....
Elana
QUOTE (Pinchas @ Mar 10 2008, 05:45 PM) *
Well according to this - he didn't go for the 7 stars... more like 4 stars... half the price of 7...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years...82spitzer1.html


um, i wasn't commenting on the effect to his wallet, but rather on the wages of those employed by that agency...

QUOTE (Moshi @ Mar 10 2008, 09:21 PM) *
Is he linked to a "prostitution ring", or did he just have some good times with a lady one night?


the former
motcha
QUOTE (Elana @ Mar 10 2008, 09:48 PM) *
um, i wasn't commenting on the effect to his wallet, but rather on the wages of those employed by that agency...



the former

According to Yeshiva News-"New York State Governor Eliot Spitzer has just informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in an ”immoral, indecent business-ring"
Bezalel99
QUOTE (Elana @ Mar 10 2008, 09:48 PM) *
um, i wasn't commenting on the effect to his wallet, but rather on the wages of those employed by that agency...


Yeah, why did I bother going to law school, when I could have made that kind of money?
motcha
QUOTE (Elana @ Mar 10 2008, 09:48 PM) *
um, i wasn't commenting on the effect to his wallet, but rather on the wages of those employed by that agency...



the former

According to Yeshiva News-"New York State Governor Eliot Spitzer has just informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in an ”immoral, indecent business-ring"
And here's my favorite comment:

Selling drugs? Not reporting income and underpaying taxes?

Elana
QUOTE (motcha @ Mar 10 2008, 10:58 PM) *
According to Yeshiva News-"New York State Governor Eliot Spitzer has just informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in an ”immoral, indecent business-ring"


PInchas' quote from NYT is very clear on being involved in the "prostitution ring"

QUOTE (Bezalel99 @ Mar 10 2008, 10:59 PM) *
Yeah, why did I bother going to law school, when I could have made that kind of money?


i was thinking today about the wrong profession that i chose
Kalashnikover_Rebbe
QUOTE (Elana @ Mar 11 2008, 05:05 AM) *
i was thinking today about the wrong profession that i chose

It's NEVER too late....
Moshi
QUOTE (Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Mar 10 2008, 10:27 PM) *
It's NEVER too late....


But there might be a significant drop in pay as one gets older.
The Rabbi
QUOTE (brianna @ Mar 10 2008, 06:05 PM) *
What's he supposed to say? And for all anyone knows, he had an arrangement with his wife. Again, why is this anyone's business?


It's anyone's business because prostitution is illegal. So he broke the law. The one he swore to uphold.
He broke his oath of office and deserves to be crucified.

I've mentioned he was ahead of me at Horace Mann 2 or 3 years. He was a slimy weasel then and I see he hasnt changed.
Bezalel99
QUOTE (Elana @ Mar 10 2008, 11:05 PM) *
i was thinking today about the wrong profession that i chose

You did recently say that you were shopping for boots.
goyishrebbe
Spitzer had been a big disappointment as governor, even before this news---and now this. Also as others have said, it wouldn't be so bad if he didn't paint himself as "Mr. Clean" and an aggressive crusader against corruption.
motcha
QUOTE (Elana @ Mar 10 2008, 10:05 PM) *
PInchas' quote from NYT is very clear on being involved in the "prostitution ring"

I know. I just thought it was interesting how Yeshiva News deals with it. I'm sure Yated and Hamodia will say the same thing.
DeepQuest
In a interview two years ago, Spitzer, then-attorney general, told ABC News he had some advice for people who break the law. "Never talk when you can nod, and never nod when you can wink, and never write an e-mail because it's death. You're giving prosecutors all the evidence we need," he said.

dunce.gif
Pinchas
QUOTE (DeepQuest @ Mar 11 2008, 08:48 AM) *
In a interview two years ago, Spitzer, then-attorney general, told ABC News he had some advice for people who break the law. "Never talk when you can nod, and never nod when you can wink, and never write an e-mail because it's death. You're giving prosecutors all the evidence we need," he said.

dunce.gif


Should have added: Never talk on your cellphone.
Elana
QUOTE (Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Mar 10 2008, 11:27 PM) *
It's NEVER too late....


QUOTE (Moshi @ Mar 10 2008, 11:38 PM) *
But there might be a significant drop in pay as one gets older.


alas, my prime years have been wasted bigcry.gif

QUOTE (The Rabbi @ Mar 10 2008, 11:45 PM) *
Horace Mann


what's that?

QUOTE (Bezalel99 @ Mar 10 2008, 11:47 PM) *
You did recently say that you were shopping for boots.


i bought them! sunny.gif (did i say enough times that macy's rules?)

QUOTE (motcha @ Mar 11 2008, 12:44 AM) *
I know. I just thought it was interesting how Yeshiva News deals with it. I'm sure Yated and Hamodia will say the same thing.


ah, you meant omitting the prostitution word? it's funny.
Elana
NEW YORK (AFP) - If Eliot Spitzer succumbs to pressure to resign over a sex scandal, New York would get its first black governor, and the United States its first blind governor, in the shape of David Paterson.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080311/pl_af...itutionpaterson
int
Speaking of prostitution, how about this:

A 'kosher' brothel - with women going to the mikvah, a quickie chuppah, then a quickie get. Of course, there's the 3 months wait problem. And also, bc problem. And also, same client problem (> certain amount of times).
Elana
a prostitute waiting 3 months for her next client rofl.gif
Rachel8
I don't think I've seen so many happy faces on Wall street since the NY Giants won the Super Bowl. After the way Spitzer targeted this industry over his last few years as Attorney General, to say that he was hated by many in this industry would be a huge understatement. At my company alone people were beyond exuberant upon hearing the news of his downfall and public humiliation.

The National Review has a pretty interesting article detailing how many of his actions with respect to this industry were actually quite self serving.

QUOTE (National Review Online)
Spitzer's Sins in the Spotlight

Spitzer saw a ladder for his ambition in the open-ended law, which is particularly susceptible to prosecutorial abuse. Unlike the federal securities laws, the Martin Act has no requirement of an intent to defraud, no requirement that anyone relied on the alleged fraud, no requirement that anyone was injured by the fraud, and indeed no requirement that any securities transaction took place. The law affords the attorney general broad subpoena power and the capacity to apply enormous pressure on potential witnesses to “cooperate” while waiving their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination.

As employed by Eliot Spitzer, the Martin Act gave vast powers to tax and to regulate national financial and commercial activity. Spitzer targeted investment banks for alleged conflicts between the companies’ stock analysts and banking divisions. Analysts’ sunny forecasts for now-busted tech companies, Spitzer’s office discovered, were influenced by the client and investment-banking relationships. Because the Martin Act afforded Spitzer the ability to take his investigation public, he went after Merrill Lynch and star analyst Henry Blodget on CNBC; the company’s stock price promptly tanked. Eventually, Spitzer took down over $1.4 billion in settlements from New York’s ten biggest investment firms.

Flush with this success, Spitzer went after the Big Apple’s big businesses with increasing relish. He targeted mutual funds for offering trading advantages to bigger clients. He went after insurance companies for paying brokers “contingent commissions” for bringing in a broader book of business. He charged record companies for paying radio stations to play more of their tunes. He sent threatening letters to mortgage lenders attacking them for setting rates too high for minority subprime lenders — a due diligence that, in hindsight, we may wish had been maintained.

In virtually every case, the public interest in Spitzer’s prosecution was tenuous at best.

<snip>

In some cases, however, Spitzer went after practices that were fully disclosed to sophisticated parties — such as the corporate clients who bought insurance contracts. And we’ll never really know if the alleged phantom-bidding scheme and other Spitzer crusades really warranted prosecution. The punishment that Spitzer could and did unilaterally inflict on corporate share prices through the media meant that the attorney general was able to extract settlements to his liking without ever going to trial.

<snip>

It's worth noting that Spitzer wielded the Martin Act with often shocking ruthlessness, typically targeting his political enemies. He reportedly threatened to indict insurance giant AIG unless the board removed chairman Maurice “Hank” Greenberg, who had spent his life building the company. In going after ###### Grasso for his New York Stock Exchange compensation plan that Spitzer deemed immoral, a Spitzer associate allegedly threatened to out the business leader’s extramarital affair — a delicious irony in light of the governor’s present predicament.

And Spitzer saw in the Martin Act the ability to generate carrots, as well as sticks. Spitzer strong-armed several of the corporations he had publicly targeted to seat his political allies on their boards. Included in many of the settlements he demanded were “slush funds” paid out to community groups and other potential supporters of the aspiring governor.

Spizer’s self-serving prosecutorial crusade has had real and deleterious economic effects — it’s far from a private matter.

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