1. What do you think of denim slipcovers, such as for arm chairs?
http://www.amazon.com/tag/denim%20slipcover
2. Would a torah truer be allowed to sit in a chair with a Devil's Fabric slipcover, or is it like shatnez? Does it make a difference if it's a color other than indigo, such as cream? http://www.target.com/Simply-Shabby-Cream-...s/dp/B00070J7JI
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Aveira gorreres Aveira!!!
Had you put plastic covers on your furniture like a nice Jewish boy, you never would have come to this...
Had you put plastic covers on your furniture like a nice Jewish boy, you never would have come to this...
QUOTE (Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Mar 16 2008, 07:29 AM) 
Aveira gorreres Aveira!!!
Had you put plastic covers on your furniture like a nice Jewish boy, you never would have come to this...
Had you put plastic covers on your furniture like a nice Jewish boy, you never would have come to this...
If dress code in a torah true institution is black pants and white shirt, can a person wear black denim pants http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=5131&pid=200696 and a white Oxford shirt http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=1...;scid=376825032 ?
I like 'em (and have seen them at a real live Jewish home.)
Denim is, however, a casual fabric more suited to a family room/den than a formal dining room.
Denim is, however, a casual fabric more suited to a family room/den than a formal dining room.
I would say that denim is more farmer or Baal tshuvah fabric then Devil, but ............
QUOTE (Arizona @ Mar 16 2008, 07:46 AM)
Denim is, however, a casual fabric more suited to a family room/den than a formal dining room.
What should a torah true formal dining room look like?
What about a living room? Isn't that where the couches and arm chairs usually are?
QUOTE (Red Hare @ Mar 16 2008, 09:02 AM)
I would say that denim is more farmer or Baal tshuvah fabric then Devil, but ............
So what are torah true fabrics? Velvet and plastic?
Hey, what about a denim diaper bag? http://www.duematernity.com/skhopdedibag.html A denim laptop case? http://www.kolobags.com/product.php?produc...t=28&page=1
or is that also for farmers and ba'alei teshuvah?
or is that also for farmers and ba'alei teshuvah?
I have denim couches in the den, I can't get the stains out for any money
QUOTE (the Real Adiel @ Mar 16 2008, 10:19 AM)
I have denim couches in the den, I can't get the stains out for any money
Is it a slip cover? Isn't the advantage of a slip cover that you can take it off easily for cleaning? and if not, it can be relatively easily replaced?
anyway, wouldn't whatever the stain is from have stained any fabric anyway?
QUOTE (melech @ Mar 16 2008, 08:53 AM)
Hey, what about a denim diaper bag? http://www.duematernity.com/skhopdedibag.html A denim laptop case? http://www.kolobags.com/product.php?produc...t=28&page=1
or is that also for farmers and ba'alei teshuvah?
or is that also for farmers and ba'alei teshuvah?
Nah, that's only a chumrah...
QUOTE (melech @ Mar 16 2008, 04:26 PM)
Is it a slip cover? Isn't the advantage of a slip cover that you can take it off easily for cleaning? and if not, it can be relatively easily replaced?
anyway, wouldn't whatever the stain is from have stained any fabric anyway?
anyway, wouldn't whatever the stain is from have stained any fabric anyway?
Perhaps the reason that denim is the devil's fabric is that it is hard to remove stains from it and so is symbolic of obstacles to teshuvah.
QUOTE (p_almonius @ Mar 16 2008, 10:56 AM)
Perhaps the reason that denim is the devil's fabric is that it is hard to remove stains from it and so is symbolic of obstacles to teshuvah.
Is that why black is the preferred color of dress?
QUOTE (Xi @ Mar 16 2008, 05:58 PM)
Is that why black is the preferred color of dress?
No. That's because black is beautiful, and once you go black you never go back.......
QUOTE (Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Mar 16 2008, 12:04 PM)
No. That's because black is beautiful, and once you go black you never go back.......
I thought Rashi doesn't think black is beautiful. Is this a case of halacha changing?
QUOTE (Xi @ Mar 16 2008, 06:08 PM)
I thought Rashi doesn't think black is beautiful. Is this a case of halacha changing?
There is no evidence that Rashi's daughters wore black
אי נמי
He obviously never "went black"...
QUOTE (melech @ Mar 16 2008, 05:48 AM)
What should a torah true formal dining room look like?
What about a living room? Isn't that where the couches and arm chairs usually are?
What about a living room? Isn't that where the couches and arm chairs usually are?
Gasp. Have you NEVER been in a torah true dining room?
Paging Toronto kiruv professionals. All Toronto kiruv professionals, please report to melech's house bringing with you a large dining room table, chairs, lotsa plastic, a white tablecloth, an enormous breakfront and enough random silver religious bling to fill it. We will also need a wood and silver bencher holder (benchers themselves can be collected from random simchas from 10 years ago, preferrably with cholent stains and at least 2 pages stuck together per bencher), enough candle sticks to make a firefighter beg for mercy, and a giant machine-embroidered mizrach wallhanging to put right next to the place where the paint and part of the drywall will be stripped to remind melech that he is officially in golus.
QUOTE (Arizona @ Mar 16 2008, 11:41 AM)
Paging Toronto kiruv professionals. All Toronto kiruv professionals, please report to melech's house bringing with you a large dining room table, chairs, lotsa plastic, a white tablecloth, an enormous breakfront and enough random silver religious bling to fill it. We will also need a wood and silver bencher holder (benchers themselves can be collected from random simchas from 10 years ago, preferrably with cholent stains and at least 2 pages stuck together per bencher), enough candle sticks to make a firefighter beg for mercy, and a giant machine-embroidered mizrach wallhanging to put right next to the place where the paint and part of the drywall will be stripped to remind melech that he is officially in golus.
It's funny because it's true.
QUOTE (Arizona @ Mar 16 2008, 12:41 PM)
Gasp. Have you NEVER been in a torah true dining room?
Paging Toronto kiruv professionals. All Toronto kiruv professionals, please report to melech's house bringing with you a large dining room table, chairs, lotsa plastic, a white tablecloth, an enormous breakfront and enough random silver religious bling to fill it. We will also need a wood and silver bencher holder (benchers themselves can be collected from random simchas from 10 years ago, preferrably with cholent stains and at least 2 pages stuck together per bencher), enough candle sticks to make a firefighter beg for mercy, and a giant machine-embroidered mizrach wallhanging to put right next to the place where the paint and part of the drywall will be stripped to remind melech that he is officially in golus.
Paging Toronto kiruv professionals. All Toronto kiruv professionals, please report to melech's house bringing with you a large dining room table, chairs, lotsa plastic, a white tablecloth, an enormous breakfront and enough random silver religious bling to fill it. We will also need a wood and silver bencher holder (benchers themselves can be collected from random simchas from 10 years ago, preferrably with cholent stains and at least 2 pages stuck together per bencher), enough candle sticks to make a firefighter beg for mercy, and a giant machine-embroidered mizrach wallhanging to put right next to the place where the paint and part of the drywall will be stripped to remind melech that he is officially in golus.
wait a sec...what about the pictures of the gedolim?
QUOTE (Arizona @ Mar 16 2008, 06:41 PM)
We will also need a wood and silver bencher holder
This is optional...
QUOTE (Arizona @ Mar 16 2008, 12:41 PM)
benchers themselves can be collected from random simchas from 10 years ago
By the way, what's proper etiquette regarding benchers from couples who are now divorced?
QUOTE (melech @ Mar 16 2008, 08:47 AM)
wait a sec...what about the pictures of the gedolim?
I figured you must already have something. We'll have to add your name to the mega-tzedakah mailing list so you can get things like this in the mail along with solicitations for yeshivos in cities you've never even visited.
QUOTE (melech @ Mar 16 2008, 08:50 AM)
By the way, what's proper etiquette regarding benchers from couples who are now divorced?
Are you asking me or the klal? I, personally, don't know.
QUOTE (Arizona @ Mar 16 2008, 11:41 AM)
Gasp. Have you NEVER been in a torah true dining room?
Paging Toronto kiruv professionals. All Toronto kiruv professionals, please report to melech's house bringing with you a large dining room table, chairs, lotsa plastic, a white tablecloth, an enormous breakfront and enough random silver religious bling to fill it. We will also need a wood and silver bencher holder (benchers themselves can be collected from random simchas from 10 years ago, preferrably with cholent stains and at least 2 pages stuck together per bencher), enough candle sticks to make a firefighter beg for mercy, and a giant machine-embroidered mizrach wallhanging to put right next to the place where the paint and part of the drywall will be stripped to remind melech that he is officially in golus.
Paging Toronto kiruv professionals. All Toronto kiruv professionals, please report to melech's house bringing with you a large dining room table, chairs, lotsa plastic, a white tablecloth, an enormous breakfront and enough random silver religious bling to fill it. We will also need a wood and silver bencher holder (benchers themselves can be collected from random simchas from 10 years ago, preferrably with cholent stains and at least 2 pages stuck together per bencher), enough candle sticks to make a firefighter beg for mercy, and a giant machine-embroidered mizrach wallhanging to put right next to the place where the paint and part of the drywall will be stripped to remind melech that he is officially in golus.
http://www.oorah.org/auction/2008/18-prize.htm
I'm a little concerned: I'm not seeing a white tablecloth. Maybe it's not shabbos. Which would also explain the decorative candles, as opposed to the official 12-branched lichter.
QUOTE (melech @ Mar 16 2008, 01:09 PM)
http://www.oorah.org/auction/2008/18-prize.htm
I'm a little concerned: I'm not seeing a white tablecloth.
I'm a little concerned: I'm not seeing a white tablecloth.
if there was a white tablecloth, how would you see the beautiful table top that matches the breakfront?
QUOTE (Elana @ Mar 16 2008, 01:10 PM)
if there was a white tablecloth, how would you see the beautiful table top that matches the breakfront?
In addition, how would one differentiate between Shabbos and chol?
Which might lead to maaris ayin that the picture was taken on Shabbos. Especially sinice one can see the level of frumkeit that Oorah has, with its shameful depiction of women in its catalogues.
QUOTE (Xi @ Mar 16 2008, 10:14 AM)
In addition, how would one differentiate between Shabbos and chol?
Which might lead to maaris ayin that the picture was taken on Shabbos. Especially sinice one can see the level of frumkeit that Oorah has, with its shameful depiction of women in its catalogues.
Which might lead to maaris ayin that the picture was taken on Shabbos. Especially sinice one can see the level of frumkeit that Oorah has, with its shameful depiction of women in its catalogues.
This is true. I'm surprised melech even linked it. The kiruv folks sure have their work cut out for them.
QUOTE (melech @ Mar 16 2008, 10:26 AM)
Is it a slip cover? Isn't the advantage of a slip cover that you can take it off easily for cleaning? and if not, it can be relatively easily replaced?
anyway, wouldn't whatever the stain is from have stained any fabric anyway?
anyway, wouldn't whatever the stain is from have stained any fabric anyway?
It's not a slip cover, it's the couch (I guess I should have gotten a slipcover). I don't know if it stains better or worse then other fabrics, all I know is that it stains pretty bad. I'm glad I got leather chairs in my dining room, it also stains but not nearly as bad as fabric.
One day I'm going to get an upholstery cleaner to come down and clean my couches.
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