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Kalashnikover_Rebbe
Top Hareidi Rabbi Bans Arab Labor Following Merkaz HaRav Attack

by Ezra HaLevi

(IsraelNN.com) Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky, considered a top Torah sage of the generation in the Hareidi-Religious community, issued a Jewish legal decision banning the employment of Arab workers by Jews according to the Yom Chadash daily.

The rabbi issued the decision at a meeting with several administrators of yeshivas in B’nei Brak. The administrators told the rabbi that they had under they employ an older Arab man who they do not suspect of any involvement in terrorism. The administrators decided, nonetheless to seek halachic (Jewish legal) guidance following reports that the terrorist who carried out the massacre at Jerusalem’s Merkaz HaRav Yeshiva had been hired as a driver on occasion.

“According to Jewish law, it is completely forbidden to hire Arabs, especially in yeshivas,” Rabbi Kanievsky said. “There is a concern of endangering lives.”

The rabbi continued, explaining, “After all, we are at war with them…and are there not Jews that can work and make a living?”

Asked later on if his words should be publicized, Rabbi Kanievsky said: “Certainly,” according to News First Class, investigative journalist Yoav Yitzchak's news site.

Rabbi Kanievsky went even further, saying that Jews should refrain from employing any non-Jews, not just Muslim Arabs, and instead grant livelihood to Jews, unless there exists a huge disparity between the costs of the labor.

The rabbi's family told Arutz-7 that the Yom Chadash report is 100% accurate and explained that "although there can be financial justification for hiring foreign workers, G-d forbid should we hire Arabs. We are at war with them."

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Psychodad
I agree (not with the other foreign worker part though)
Pinchas
I'm voting ג!
cholentpot
QUOTE (Pinchas @ Mar 16 2008, 08:27 AM) *
I'm voting ג!

If you don't mind me asking why?

In my Yeshiva we never had any Arabs, chas v'ashalom as they are always a security threat
Goldfish
QUOTE (Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Mar 16 2008, 08:25 AM) *
Rabbi Kanievsky went even further, saying that Jews should refrain from employing any non-Jews, not just Muslim Arabs, and instead grant livelihood to Jews, unless there exists a huge disparity between the costs of the labor.

And therein lies the problem. Of course there's going to be a huge disparity between costs of labor.
cholentpot
QUOTE (Goldfish @ Mar 16 2008, 12:03 PM) *
And therein lies the problem. Of course there's going to be a huge disparity between costs of labor.

I don't agree 100% as Russians and Ethiopians(not saying this is a bad way) work in a lot of Yeshiva's, do you think they would really hire them if they that much more expensive but Arab labour is cheaper most of the time or at least on that large a scale
Pinchas
QUOTE (cholentpot @ Mar 16 2008, 07:54 PM) *
If you don't mind me asking why?


What? I should vote for Shas again?
Elana
btw, there was a statement from R'Kanievsky's son (in JP) that not all things that are "signed" by him are real. not saying this one isn't real, just mentioning it.
krumlikeapretzel
QUOTE (Pinchas @ Mar 16 2008, 11:08 AM) *
What? I should vote for Shas again?
*You* voted for Shas?!?!?!?!
*You* are voting for gimmel?!?!?!?!?!
I was pretty sure you were voting for Mafdal...
Anyway, *anything* that's not Shas is better, and I mean anything.
Pinchas
QUOTE (krumlikeapretzel @ Mar 16 2008, 09:52 PM) *
*You* voted for Shas?!?!?!?!
*You* are voting for gimmel?!?!?!?!?!
I was pretty sure you were voting for Mafdal...
Anyway, *anything* that's not Shas is better, and I mean anything.


*You* obviously mis-judged who I am, probably based on foolish stereotypes.
doodlehead
QUOTE (Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Mar 16 2008, 07:25 AM) *
Top Hareidi Rabbi Bans Arab Labor Following Merkaz HaRav Attack

by Ezra HaLevi

(IsraelNN.com) Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky, considered a top Torah sage of the generation in the Hareidi-Religious community, issued a Jewish legal decision banning the employment of Arab workers by Jews according to the Yom Chadash daily.

The rabbi issued the decision at a meeting with several administrators of yeshivas in B'nei Brak. The administrators told the rabbi that they had under they employ an older Arab man who they do not suspect of any involvement in terrorism. The administrators decided, nonetheless to seek halachic (Jewish legal) guidance following reports that the terrorist who carried out the massacre at Jerusalem's Merkaz HaRav Yeshiva had been hired as a driver on occasion.

"According to Jewish law, it is completely forbidden to hire Arabs, especially in yeshivas," Rabbi Kanievsky said. "There is a concern of endangering lives."

The rabbi continued, explaining, "After all, we are at war with them…and are there not Jews that can work and make a living?"

Asked later on if his words should be publicized, Rabbi Kanievsky said: "Certainly," according to News First Class, investigative journalist Yoav Yitzchak's news site.

Rabbi Kanievsky went even further, saying that Jews should refrain from employing any non-Jews, not just Muslim Arabs, and instead grant livelihood to Jews, unless there exists a huge disparity between the costs of the labor.

The rabbi's family told Arutz-7 that the Yom Chadash report is 100% accurate and explained that "although there can be financial justification for hiring foreign workers, G-d forbid should we hire Arabs. We are at war with them."

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Does that mean I cant shop in the arab shuk anymore? sad.gif

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krumlikeapretzel
QUOTE (Pinchas @ Mar 16 2008, 01:06 PM) *
*You* obviously mis-judged who I am, probably based on foolish stereotypes.
True, but I would never be choshed you of voting for Shas...

Please tell you were joking...
Kalashnikover_Rebbe
QUOTE (krumlikeapretzel @ Mar 16 2008, 08:52 PM) *
I was pretty sure you were voting for Mafdal...

No one frum (ETA: or "right wing") votes for Mafdal....
Pinchas
QUOTE (krumlikeapretzel @ Mar 16 2008, 09:24 PM) *
True, but I would never be choshed you of voting for Shas...

Please tell you were joking...


I was not joking. I indeed voted Shas. (And I had my reasons which I do not care to share.)
mslittky
Does anyone think this might help new unemployed olim get positions with yeshivot?

When we first made aliyah, my husband was interested in working in one of the yeshivas in the kitchen, but our friends said most yeshivas hire arabs for that kind of work. Well, my husband was just laid off, and he's looking for ANYTHING right now. Do you think the yeshivas will take this Rabbi's statement to heart?

Seriously, if anyone has any protekzia with yeshivot in Jerusalem or Bnei Brak (we live in Modiin, so either's good), then please let me know!!

Malynnda
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