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mosheshmeal
Yehuda said to Yossef: והיה כראותו כי אין הנער ומת

I heard an interesting vort. (I'm not very good at repeating such things, so forgive me if it's not well explained.) I can't remember who says it, but when I do I'll post it bl"n.

Yehuda was describing how painful it would be for Yaakov not to see/be with his son. And therefore Yossef should have mercy and let him return home.

Why didn't Yehuda (also) say that it would be painful for Binyomin to be without his father?

The answer is, that the love of parents for a child, is much stronger than that of a child towards his parents. the reason for this is genetic. Odom HoRishon didn't have any parents, so he had no in-built love towards parents. But he did have children, and thus a love towards his own children. Therefore a parents love for a child is much greater.

mosheshmeal
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Aristotle
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TheDuncePolice
I heard a different spin on this one. That that's why the hardest Mitzva is Kibbud Horim. Because Adam Harishon didn't have parents. True or not? That's for you people to debate! tongue.gif
mosheshmeal
QUOTE(TheDuncePolice @ Dec 4 2005, 02:17 AM)
I heard a different spin on this one. That that's why the hardest Mitzva is Kibbud Horim. Because Adam Harishon didn't have parents. True or not? That's for you people to debate! tongue.gif
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What's your opinion?

mosheshmeal
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Dovid
QUOTE(mosheshmeal @ Dec 16 2004, 10:40 PM)

The answer is, that the love of parents for a child, is much stronger than that of a child towards his parents. .
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So true. Most people recover, within the year, if not within months (weeks?), from the loss of a parent. No one ever fully recovers from the loss of a child. לא עלינו
accolade
QUOTE(Dovid @ Dec 4 2005, 10:22 PM)
Most people recover, within the year, if not within months (weeks?), from the loss of a parent.[right][snapback]373949[/snapback][/right]

Really? user posted image

Define "recover."
Dovid
QUOTE(accolade @ Dec 4 2005, 10:24 PM)
QUOTE(Dovid @ Dec 4 2005, 10:22 PM)
Most people recover, within the year, if not within months (weeks?), from the loss of a parent.[right][snapback]373949[/snapback][/right]

Really? user posted image

Define "recover."
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Able to lead a normal life.
accolade
QUOTE(Dovid @ Dec 4 2005, 10:27 PM)
QUOTE(accolade @ Dec 4 2005, 10:24 PM)

Define "recover."
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Able to lead a normal life.
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I'll back out of this discussion, having thankfully experienced neither of the two.

I think you might not be fully right, though.
TheDuncePolice
QUOTE(mosheshmeal @ Dec 4 2005, 10:21 PM)
QUOTE(TheDuncePolice @ Dec 4 2005, 02:17 AM)
I heard a different spin on this one. That that's why the hardest Mitzva is Kibbud Horim. Because Adam Harishon didn't have parents. True or not? That's for you people to debate! tongue.gif
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What's your opinion?

mosheshmeal
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Ah, well that's a good question. I'm not so sure ti's the hardest Mitzva out there. At least not to everyone. It depends a lot on circumstances/relationships as well. But yah, it's pretty high on my 'hard mitzva' list.
TheDuncePolice
QUOTE(Dovid @ Dec 4 2005, 10:22 PM)
QUOTE(mosheshmeal @ Dec 16 2004, 10:40 PM)

The answer is, that the love of parents for a child, is much stronger than that of a child towards his parents. .
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So true. Most people recover, within the year, if not within months (weeks?), from the loss of a parent. No one ever fully recovers from the loss of a child. לא עלינו
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I wouldn't say within weeks, months or even the year, but I think the natural way of the world is for a child to lose parents at one point in their life. Whereas a parent L"A losing a child is so unnatural. So against the nature of things.
accolade
QUOTE(TheDuncePolice @ Dec 5 2005, 12:41 AM)
I wouldn't say within weeks, months or even the year, but I think the natural way of the world is for a child to lose parents at one point in their life. Whereas a parent L"A losing a child is so unnatural. So against the nature of things.
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That's a much better way of putting it.
Dovid
QUOTE(accolade @ Dec 5 2005, 12:44 AM)
QUOTE(TheDuncePolice @ Dec 5 2005, 12:41 AM)
I wouldn't say within weeks, months or even the year, but I think the natural way of the world is for a child to lose parents at one point in their life. Whereas a parent L"A losing a child is so unnatural. So against the nature of things.
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That's a much better way of putting it.
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I agree. Thanks.
mosheshmeal
Bump.

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TheDuncePolice
Voos?
mosheshmeal
דאס

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